EVE General Discussion

Which is why generalist remaps although suboptimal from a pure SP/hour perspective are still a really good idea.

Is this a joke?

You arent stuck in anything except your own poorly informed bad choices.

This is a NON-ISSUE.

I have never remapped, and guess what, Im doing just fine, on all my toons.
Even if had, I could remap back out.
I have zero frustration from this, vs your "remaining big source of frustration"

You remapped, inorder to skill faster in the short-run, and messed it it up.
You, did that, not me or CCP.

Are you trying to argue that remaps should be removed, after you yourself used them for benefit?
How does that change your bad remap plan and consequences? Not at all.
Removing remapping wont help you, and instead just remove the opportunity for other players to do it right.

Ive sat on my remap options for years, whilst grinding through time with that option unused.
And now you want to take that away from me and others, cos you greedily and foolishly messed yours up?
No.

It has always been made explicitly clear what the consequences of remaps are.

Bottomless fall, come on Indah.... Even you are better than this.. stop with the exaggerated semantics. The situation looks fine, unless your assumption is that new character creation should keep rising, but what is your rationale behind this? I think it is pretty logical is goes down after the hype behind the introduction.

It is sad you spend so much time on the fearmongering, while you want to push through your PVE agenda. Like I have been writing for years, it is a complex sum of problems and following your suggestions would most likely imo not fix the situation. because it only cathers to the needs of one group. Besides there is already the mining oprations, which they use to improve the NPC AI with promise of more complex PVE experiences. I would have thought you would appreciate that, but it is really about the complaining with you isn't it?

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Yes, what survey?

There's a little thing called fanfest coming up that may have some new info .....

It's simple, population was going down, F2P improved it, now it's going back to normal and then will keep going down as before F2P. My personal estimate was that F2P would improve PCU by maximum 15% after 6 months, and then population would start going down again. And CCP haves nothing in the works to improve population, since they're focused on a minority of the game and that is failing to retain the majority of players.



Well, following CCP Seagull's plan to cater to not-highsec PvPrs is working fine, as the demographic trend since 2013 evidences.

Mind you, EVE would be going to hell no matter what. PvP games always die, losers quit and winners are left without targets, or become losers and quit too. So PvP games always die by their own nature.

Yet, to the point: in a game like EVE, it's easier to become a PvEer than a PvPr. Thus naturally, it will always have more PvErs than PvPrs, given the choice. Yet PvE is a short term activity because CCP never cared for it. Thus players either become PvPrs, or quit sooner than later. And as PvPrs, they also quit eventually.

Now, CCP has focused on PvP since 2013. It is achieving a notorious success in it. But the price is to lose PvErs, and thus have a small game which just becomes smaller naturally with each war, each battle, each brawl. And at some point, it will be so small that won't be able to pay for its development. I say that this point will be reached in three to four years, sooner if CCP can't find other sources of income (and that's quite likely, since their hopes are on VR and VR is becoming dead on arrival).

I've been saying the same for the last 6 years. EVE needs to be more than PvP if it is to last, and that is not happening, nor there are any plans for it.

One last comment about PvP vs PvE. Do you know Ultima Online? It's one of the oldest MMOs around, and albeit a pale shadow of its glory days, it's still being developed (very slowly) and paid for by a small amount of followers who month after month convince Broadsword to not pull the plug (certainly helps that UO servers could run on your smartphone, in terms of required computer power).

Care to guess who's still playing Ultima Online? PvErs. A few of them have been doing it for 19 years. PvPrs abandoned the ship long ago. That's what you get, as a developer, for sucking PvPr's d*cks. A lesson that was harshly learned by the fools behind the first MMO I played...


PS: on the topic of PvE, new AI and gankable NPC miners... I was not asked about it. Nobody I know was asked about it. It ressembles nothing I've ever seen asked by anyone, in years of talking about PvE with different people. My guess is that CCP just asked to whomever they had in hand (PvPrs) and got a load of bullshit about what do players who don't effin' PvE want for PvE. PvErs, to the best of my knowledge, haven't been asked anything by CCP in 8 years...

Yeah I agree with that.

CCP seems to forget that Eve requires a healthy PVE/Indy/PI/Trader population to keep the game in balance.
Pretty much lately all of the content has gone straight to major PVP alliances with little regard to everyone else.

It breaks my heart when I see an "Average Joe" industry pilot lose his freighter full of all kinds of industry-related things due to a High Sec gank just so some stupid suicide ganking alliance can generate a little more conversation on their killboards. Because chances are, Average Joe had his entire Eve life in that freighter and he is probably not going to continue to play the game.

The sad part is CCP wishes these types of unfortunate events upon non-pvpers. And ultimately, its the non-pvpers that are the backbone of the games economy.

But the final outcome is the same ;)

I would give you a +1 if I could but my browser is being weird about letting me do that. Getting real tired of the PvEer victimhood pity party.