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Daarick Thairleen
Weh Mir Oh Weh
#1 - 2017-01-22 14:55:35 UTC
Greetings,

Im returning after a lay off and running level 4 security missions. The problem I am encountering is getting missions with ship restrictions. Of my last seven mission requests, from said level four agent, five have had ship restrictions that prevent me from flying my battleship. The one I have now, which I have gotten three of the last seven, is restricted to frigates, corvettes, and special ops ships. I remember getting these occasionally before but this is ridiculous.

Is this something I can now expect from all level four agents or is the one Im asking just especially obtuse? Is there something I can do to get this, or any other agent, to stop giving me these missions?

Before its even suggested, I do decline them. Then the next mission has restrictions. With the penalty for declining missions within four hours of each other after I decline the one I pretty much just have to move on since Im getting them back to back to back. The weird part is I just go do level three missions for the same corp and rarely get missions that I cant fly my battleship. I can just limit myself to the level three but, of course, the rewards are much less.

Any input is appreciated.
Jennifer Starblaze
Fury Transport
#2 - 2017-01-22 14:57:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jennifer Starblaze
Daarick Thairleen wrote:
Greetings,

Im returning after a lay off and running level 4 security missions. The problem I am encountering is getting missions with ship restrictions. Of my last seven mission requests, from said level four agent, five have had ship restrictions that prevent me from flying my battleship. The one I have now, which I have gotten three of the last seven, is restricted to frigates, corvettes, and special ops ships. I remember getting these occasionally before but this is ridiculous.

Is this something I can now expect from all level four agents or is the one Im asking just especially obtuse? Is there something I can do to get this, or any other agent, to stop giving me these missions?

Before its even suggested, I do decline them. Then the next mission has restrictions. With the penalty for declining missions within four hours of each other after I decline the one I pretty much just have to move on since Im getting them back to back to back. The weird part is I just go do level three missions for the same corp and rarely get missions that I cant fly my battleship. I can just limit myself to the level three but, of course, the rewards are much less.

Any input is appreciated.


Those missions are burner missions which are excluded from the 4 hours rule. You can turn them down as often in a row as you want without any penalty to standings.
Reinhardt Kreiss
TetraVaal Tactical Group
#3 - 2017-01-22 14:58:09 UTC
Those are Burner missions, designed to be more PVP-like. You can decline them without standing loss.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Missions#Anomic_Missions_aka_Burner_Missions
Davian Thule Pirkibo
Black Rabbits
Black Rabbit.
#4 - 2017-01-22 15:24:31 UTC
Daarick Thairleen wrote:
Greetings,

Im returning after a lay off and running level 4 security missions. The problem I am encountering is getting missions with ship restrictions. Of my last seven mission requests, from said level four agent, five have had ship restrictions that prevent me from flying my battleship. The one I have now, which I have gotten three of the last seven, is restricted to frigates, corvettes, and special ops ships. I remember getting these occasionally before but this is ridiculous.

Is this something I can now expect from all level four agents or is the one Im asking just especially obtuse? Is there something I can do to get this, or any other agent, to stop giving me these missions?

Before its even suggested, I do decline them. Then the next mission has restrictions. With the penalty for declining missions within four hours of each other after I decline the one I pretty much just have to move on since Im getting them back to back to back. The weird part is I just go do level three missions for the same corp and rarely get missions that I cant fly my battleship. I can just limit myself to the level three but, of course, the rewards are much less.

Any input is appreciated.


Burner missions, run them if you got good frigate skills, they can pay out very well
Eleanor Roscommon
Bleu Femme Felis
#5 - 2017-01-22 15:36:34 UTC
Davian Thule Pirkibo wrote:
Daarick Thairleen wrote:
Greetings,

Im returning after a lay off and running level 4 security missions. The problem I am encountering is getting missions with ship restrictions. Of my last seven mission requests, from said level four agent, five have had ship restrictions that prevent me from flying my battleship. The one I have now, which I have gotten three of the last seven, is restricted to frigates, corvettes, and special ops ships. I remember getting these occasionally before but this is ridiculous.

Is this something I can now expect from all level four agents or is the one Im asking just especially obtuse? Is there something I can do to get this, or any other agent, to stop giving me these missions?

Before its even suggested, I do decline them. Then the next mission has restrictions. With the penalty for declining missions within four hours of each other after I decline the one I pretty much just have to move on since Im getting them back to back to back. The weird part is I just go do level three missions for the same corp and rarely get missions that I cant fly my battleship. I can just limit myself to the level three but, of course, the rewards are much less.

Any input is appreciated.


Burner missions, run them if you got good frigate skills, they can pay out very well


if you have very good frigate skills, supporting skills, a solid ship, and actually know how to fly it. If not, you most likely will lose that ship. Go read up on those burner missions fits and tactics, before making any attempt at one.
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#6 - 2017-01-22 16:37:40 UTC
Daarick Thairleen wrote:
Greetings,

Im returning after a lay off and running level 4 security missions. The problem I am encountering is getting missions with ship restrictions. Of my last seven mission requests, from said level four agent, five have had ship restrictions that prevent me from flying my battleship. The one I have now, which I have gotten three of the last seven, is restricted to frigates, corvettes, and special ops ships. I remember getting these occasionally before but this is ridiculous.

Is this something I can now expect from all level four agents or is the one Im asking just especially obtuse? Is there something I can do to get this, or any other agent, to stop giving me these missions?

Before its even suggested, I do decline them. Then the next mission has restrictions. With the penalty for declining missions within four hours of each other after I decline the one I pretty much just have to move on since Im getting them back to back to back. The weird part is I just go do level three missions for the same corp and rarely get missions that I cant fly my battleship. I can just limit myself to the level three but, of course, the rewards are much less.

Any input is appreciated.

You dont get penalized for declining burner missions. So if you dont want them just decline them.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2017-01-22 20:08:52 UTC
I dont think there's a way around them. Mfy agent gives me 5-6 in a row usually.
Atomic team, atomic agent, anomic duo or something like that usually. They do need to lower how often they're given tho. It gets annoying just having to flip between conversation, request mission and decline
Another Posting Alt
Zerious Fricken Biziness
#8 - 2017-01-22 21:12:44 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
I dont think there's a way around them. Mfy agent gives me 5-6 in a row usually.
Atomic team, atomic agent, anomic duo or something like that usually. They do need to lower how often they're given tho. It gets annoying just having to flip between conversation, request mission and decline


I disagree, some of us would rather do them. Maybe a flag so you don't get the offer, or maybe extra agents who only offer burners and the others stop offering them altogether.
Sethyrh Nakrar
#9 - 2017-01-23 11:15:49 UTC
Daarick Thairleen wrote:
Greetings,

Im returning after a lay off and running level 4 security missions. The problem I am encountering is getting missions with ship restrictions. Of my last seven mission requests, from said level four agent, five have had ship restrictions that prevent me from flying my battleship. The one I have now, which I have gotten three of the last seven, is restricted to frigates, corvettes, and special ops ships. I remember getting these occasionally before but this is ridiculous.

Is this something I can now expect from all level four agents or is the one Im asking just especially obtuse? Is there something I can do to get this, or any other agent, to stop giving me these missions?

Before its even suggested, I do decline them. Then the next mission has restrictions. With the penalty for declining missions within four hours of each other after I decline the one I pretty much just have to move on since Im getting them back to back to back. The weird part is I just go do level three missions for the same corp and rarely get missions that I cant fly my battleship. I can just limit myself to the level three but, of course, the rewards are much less.

Any input is appreciated.

They are burner missions. If you decline them, you will not be penalized. And yeah, sometimes they come in a row.
You can do them or ignore them. Anyway, they are kind of a hardmode-missions, so be carefull.

Praise the Omnissiah!
Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2017-01-23 15:45:33 UTC
Look closer at the ship restrictions to some missions.
You can take force auxiliaries and capital industrial ships inside some of them ^_^
Lasisha Mishi
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2017-01-23 16:06:09 UTC
Davian Thule Pirkibo wrote:
Daarick Thairleen wrote:
Greetings,

Im returning after a lay off and running level 4 security missions. The problem I am encountering is getting missions with ship restrictions. Of my last seven mission requests, from said level four agent, five have had ship restrictions that prevent me from flying my battleship. The one I have now, which I have gotten three of the last seven, is restricted to frigates, corvettes, and special ops ships. I remember getting these occasionally before but this is ridiculous.

Is this something I can now expect from all level four agents or is the one Im asking just especially obtuse? Is there something I can do to get this, or any other agent, to stop giving me these missions?

Before its even suggested, I do decline them. Then the next mission has restrictions. With the penalty for declining missions within four hours of each other after I decline the one I pretty much just have to move on since Im getting them back to back to back. The weird part is I just go do level three missions for the same corp and rarely get missions that I cant fly my battleship. I can just limit myself to the level three but, of course, the rewards are much less.

Any input is appreciated.


Burner missions, run them if you got good frigate skills, they can pay out very well

ok dumb question here
but...say you have good frigate skills and a proper build.

how hard is the mission. is it something i should bring a friend. or is it doable solo
Jennifer Starblaze
Fury Transport
#12 - 2017-01-23 17:07:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Jennifer Starblaze
They are doable solo, but not just in any frig ( /cruiser in case of the anomic base).

As an example here is a fitting that is viable against the serpentis burner daredevil:

[Hawk, Daredevil]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I
Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
Target Painter II

Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
[Empty High slot]
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II

Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

edit: I want to point out that there is a good chance this will not work against other burners, so if you want to all of them you will need a specialised ship againt each one of them. But there are enough guides out there that can give you valueable advice on which ship to use.

As you can imagine that little frig will cost a few 100 million ISK and even with that there is no room for piloting mistakes.

If you team up with friends to get to know them first they become doable in much cheaper frigs, yet even in a team you should not take them lightly and need to be prepared to get blown up :).

In short: they are in a completly different league than regular level 4 missions in regards to their difficulty.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#13 - 2017-01-23 20:46:42 UTC
Lasisha Mishi wrote:


how hard is the mission. is it something i should bring a friend. or is it doable solo


It's doable solo- as in, people HAVE done them - but you will die often. Try it on the test server first. It's possible to do them but you need the right fit and a lot of experience and luck. Or bring a couple friends with logi.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#14 - 2017-01-23 22:02:24 UTC
I tried one burner in my favorite short-range Assault Frigate (blaster Harpy). The NPC was a long-range kite-er with a web. You can guess how well that went. Ugh

I don't even notice these missions anymore. I just decline them.