EVE General Discussion

Yeah. How about no.

Ask your Corp CEO how to survive a wardec.

If he can't give you a good answer and assistance from Corp, quit immediately and find a better one as he has no place being the CEO of a Corp in highsec.

No, this game protects new players enough as is. You can for example be perma banned for suicide ganking in a rookie system,

Looks like someone was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

If it happened the other way, Alpha killing Omega, then shame on the Omega! And kudos for the noob.

There IS "new player protection". It's called high sec and CONCORD. Also, CCP frowns and will take action against players who specifically target and repeatedly gank new players in the designated 1.0 sec status training systems where players originally spawn in.

Anything else: don't undock if you want to stay "safe".

Yes, CCP needs to implement better tools to equip new players for the realities of EVE. I'm constantly harping on the UI in EVE. It's ridiculously bad, constantly gets worse, and I'm sure in itself it pushes away new players. All of these problems you imagine aren't problems, they are the game. EVE is not a mining simulator. EVE is not even really a market simulator. EVE is a conflict generator. If you're not participating in conflict in some way, you've chosen to be an NPC and indeed should be completely ignored. The problem is your perception of what's happening and the tools to deal with conflicts aren't especially accessible. No, an easy mode for new players is a terrible idea.

A little story... in my first corp, we got wardecced shortly after I joined. There was already an obvious spy in the corp that our CEO didn't take care of. Then our CEO ditched us in the middle of the war. As I started to organize our guys for a fight, figure out what we had available (nothing bigger than a cruiser really, rookies started with much less than rookies do now), the spy saw the communications and they ended the war immediately. Lesson: if you feel like you're getting picked on, you probably deserve it for being weak as a person, not because you're a rookie. Play for 10 years, but stay weak, and you'll keep getting picked on and continue to deserve it.

No. This is eve. Not wow

You are detailing why this is a niche game, yes it is unbalanced, but that is the fun, I would do some balance tweaks here and there, I have never liked it being a game of alts, but have multiple accounts myself to be able to compete, the nultiple accounts structure make certain things very very easy and destroys the immersive nature of the game, but that is what it is.

I run around and have no impact from these people at all, but that is because I understand how to make myself difficult to kill and I know how to bore them to death, you just have to gain that understanding, of course the question is do you want to do that, but I found it fun. Currently I am treating the game as a single player resource hunting game and building up my resources hanger to some obscene amount and gloating over it, you make it what you want it to be... If I was to get a war dec and it was someone who wanted to actually hunt me I could just go and play another game for a week or two or head into 0.0, lowsec or WH space with alts and stuff, and I work on having nothing that they can easily attack, it is the attitude you have to have to have fun which is important.

I felt that I won Eve when one forum warrior told me that war deckers he wanted to send after me refused to go after me because it was not worth it, I enjoyed that post so much it was for me a total victory post and he did not realise it. Does this help in understanding how you can actually play the game in such a hostile environment.

War decs, one can argue that they are not senseless, what they are doing is getting a larger potential target list of easy to kill people who move through the pipes and go to trade hubs or operate in the main mission hubs. It is easy enough to avoid those areas for a week if you get a war dec from one of the blanket war deckers.

I'd be interested to see where this data came from. Serious details - how was the surveying process designed, who was asked & how they were selected (especially if they self-selected), how the questions were asked, what questions were asked, how the results were analyzed, etc .

It's very unlikely that CCP has good data on why people stop playing EVE. Data on why people stay is easier to gather, but of no great value in identifying why people leave. Even less likely that CCP can identify the importance of different factors and/or specific kinds of events that influenced people's decision to unsub. People generally stop playing this class of game because they're not getting enough entertainment to justify the time it takes - it's hardly likely the people who leave are interested in trying to quantify and classify the various elements of the game they did and didn't participate in, and how important they were to their decision to stop playing.

CCP will, however, surely have found the EVE version of what the pointy-headed management of every MMO finds: that on average players who join groups of people they like playing with stay longer than people who don't (regardless of their reason). But how is this useful data? MMOs are specifically designed for group play.

Of course In EVE this "revelation" will present as biased towards what EVE calls PvP (which isn't like anyone else's "PvP", so the word is nearly useless when applied to beginners or people who stop playing). But once again, how is this useful data? Whatever EVE's PvP is, it's a very large part of what the game is designed to deliver to its subscribers.

But there's there's no way to "invert" insight into why some people stay into knowledge of why others leave.