Ships & Modules

I see the usual no missiles ships because counting salvos and travel time and my mind says what the hell. I understand if you are trying to maximize the ISK, LP or standings gains but when you are simply flying missions because bored what does it really matter if you lose one salvo. Personally I never understood the whole salvo counting anyway, I have always flown cruise and with the average ranges in a mission it has never been an issue the current volley always hits before the next one launches.

OP if you are bored and do not care about ISK, LP or standings then get out of the easy mode ships. Try destroyers for level 4 and faction frigates for level 3's, either or both can be an interesting experience, or get really crazy and run your favorite Assault Frigate in level 4's that can be a real challenge.

What do I fly?
Golem most of the time I like the consistent speed that it kills at no matter which NPC I am fighting.
Vargur and Paladin against some NPC for a change of pace.
Machariel to blitz.
Favorite challenge when I am bored is to run level 3's in faction frigate, and when I am in the mood for real challenge I use an Ishkur and go run level 4's.

1) HAM Tengu for L4.

2) Bookmark.

3) Come back in Noctis with perfect Noctis and salvaging skills.

4) Profit.

Time spent while doing something you enjoy is never "wasted", in that context you are wrong those 8 seconds per ship simply do not matter. If you have to count volleys on a cruise missile mission ship you are flying it wrong, or you are flying it for the wrong reason. Cruises missiles are perhaps the longest ranged sub-cap weapons in the game and they fill a role that way in missions that is the wrong way to fly them. Get in close, close enough that your average flight time to target is less than your launchers cycle time and you will NEVER have to count volleys again and you minimize the "wasted" time due to missiles traveling to their targets.


See above about getting in close, and you will never have to count volleys again.


HAM Tengu can be fun in missions and I fly one a lot because of it. On the other hand the short cycle time of the launchers makes it a terrible choice for someone that is OCD about wasted time and wasted volleys, so what I see here is someone choosing the wrong tool for the job at hand and as such this is YOUR problem and not a problem with the ship or weapons.


Personal choice and given your passionate hatred for "wasting" a few minutes of time in a mission it does not surprise me.


You may have gone AFK in missions for standings in the past but you did not do it in an Ishkur, your OCD attitude about saving seconds would not allow you to.
But then your time oriented OCD attitude is blinding you to why people may actually want ot run level 4 missions in a frigate class hull. You see one does not choose to run level 4 missions in a frigate class hull because it is efficient, one chooses to do it simply to prove that they can and once they have they usually keep doing it because it can actually make missions fun and challenging. Specifically to the Ishkur given the CPU needed to mount 2 drone link augmentors and the 2 sebos needed to even get to 100k targeting and drones control range the rest of your fit is rather limited. Oh and you will not have to worry abou wasting 2 to 3 hours when you try this because your ship and drones are not going to last that long. But hey if you want you can always use an Enyo instead then you cannot AFK and let the drones to the work, and yes I do that as well and I recommend that everyone try it at least once.

Your obsessive compulsive nature towards minimum time needed is what makes missions as boring and tedious as they are. Granted there will always be a boring element to mission because you run the same ones over and over but flying the same mission, using the same optimized ship/fits, using the same time optimized tactics only magnifies the problem. Let loose of the OCD, venture into missions with a new attitude of what can I do today to make this less boring and see what happens.

Blaster Hyperion for lvl 4s.

Rail Brutix for lvl 3s.

Rail Vexor for certain DED sites.

Enyo for courier- and scout-type missions, and for hi-sec anomalies.

Far from optimal, I'm certain, but I'm having fun and learning the missions while I train into other things.

Anize's guide for the Burners with the exception of the Talos Base (for which I use a cap-stable Deimos instead of a Vagabond)

Blitzable Angel Missions - a Loki

Blitzable Serpentis Missions - the aforementioned Deimos

Gallente Faction Security Missions (e.g. 'Inspired') the Deimos again

For recon 1/2/3 and Cargo Delivery - an Ares

For L1 FW missions - a Tristan

For L4 FW missions - a stealth bomber

For when I want a beer and chillax / collect insignias - a Dominix

[EDIT] I try to avoid using Battleships to run L4's for the most part these days, they seem too OP for the most part, unless you have low skills. Don't get me wrong, Pirate BS were fun 5 years ago, and Marauders are fun in certain situations, C4+ in WH's for instance. But IMO there are better tools for the job in K-space, particularly in low sec and null.

Old, old sentry drone Dominix, or my new cruise+sentry Rattlesnake. Both with MJD and mobile depot for quick refits to a MWD, alternate sentry, or more tank/dps/range.

With the new server 'rubberbanding'/lags, its a very forgiving combo.

I posted it here, post #3, and I'd love some feedback.

Definitely a good looking ship!

Something different...

I use a Probe, with a light missile launcher, and a variety of drones.

It aint fast at killing anything but it works.