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Facebook is using my in game information.

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thatonepersone
Black Jack 0-1
#1 - 2017-01-14 23:01:52 UTC
I was on facebook and one of the people i play with in game is on my recommended friends list. We have never communicated out side of eve, we have no mutual friends and in team speak we have only used his first name. The only reason i know its him for sure is because he has a picture uploaded in team speak.

Anybody else see a problem with this?
Akali Mid
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-01-14 23:03:43 UTC
Youre the one that sees a "problem" with it.. care to elaborate what are you trying to say here?

What is the purpose of this thread?
thatonepersone
Black Jack 0-1
#3 - 2017-01-14 23:10:07 UTC
I am asking if anybody else thinks facebook shouldnt be going that deep into our eve stuff. If a player was doing this to see which players where talking to each other with out there consent, and to see who the players where in real life, it would be a problem.

Im asking what other people think about it.
Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
#4 - 2017-01-14 23:12:08 UTC
Facebook is using the EVE social network to grow its own social network, by plundering the information in your computer.

Facebook also does it by checking out what you type in messages to others, you can test that by mentioning a product in a private message and then seeing the Facebook ads pop up.

Apart from the problem of privacy, which most people don't really care about now, there is the problem of Facebook coming between players and EVE. Inserting itself as a middleman. Which has implications for CCP.

Myself I'd prefer CCP to consider the social network of EVE as part of the game, rather than a job that's best farmed out to Twitter, Facebook and the other loonies.

However it is what it is, and we can't really tell where all this will end up, maybe it will be okay.

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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#5 - 2017-01-14 23:16:42 UTC
thatonepersone wrote:
I was on facebook and one of the people i play with in game is on my recommended friends list. We have never communicated out side of eve, we have no mutual friends and in team speak we have only used his first name. The only reason i know its him for sure is because he has a picture uploaded in team speak.

Anybody else see a problem with this?


If you mean with Facebook datamining everything then possibly. If the person you play with is in your corp I can see how the datamining occurs.
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#6 - 2017-01-14 23:18:19 UTC
Noticed a similar trend myself and separated all RL connections to Eve Online.

@lunettelulu7

Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#7 - 2017-01-14 23:28:47 UTC
"Supposedly" doesn't show people who search for you in people you might know - some rumors that it does if you both search for each other but maybe he searched for you and that is how it happened. Over Christmas I was sitting by some girl at a party - didn't know her, we have no friends in common, etc. I didn't search for her on FB - 2 days after she starts showing in my people you might know list.

Its also started showing people recently that I worked with years ago before the internet was really a thing - who again I have absolutely no links to :s
Kenneth Endashi
Kor-Azor Slave Holdings
#8 - 2017-01-14 23:59:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Kenneth Endashi
accidentally made two posts
Kenneth Endashi
Kor-Azor Slave Holdings
#9 - 2017-01-15 00:06:37 UTC
thatonepersone wrote:
I am asking if anybody else thinks facebook shouldnt be going that deep into our eve stuff. If a player was doing this to see which players where talking to each other with out there consent, and to see who the players where in real life, it would be a problem.

Im asking what other people think about it.



i agree. moreover eve as a closed system is partly the product. there are boundaries in eve vastly different from other social systems. any facebook telemetry thru eve disrespects that traditional pseudo-anonymity, interferes with gameplay because much of eve is played offline but on your terms. popping up in facebook breaks immersion, and violates basic game rules, as youve said, and you didnt consent to it either but lets not get into that because how fb data sharing affects eve as a product, gaming experience, and society is paramount to the issue youve raised.
Demonspawn 666
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2017-01-15 00:23:31 UTC
Delete Facebook.... problem solved!

Is it really important that you keep up to date with the antics of peoples cats, dogs, hamsters and their dietary intake?

I hate facebook.

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#11 - 2017-01-15 00:43:22 UTC
Facebook is probably one of the most despicable applications on the internet. Just stop using it.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#12 - 2017-01-15 01:02:26 UTC
I thought that title went to Origin. Granted, Facebook would likely be a pretty close second in that case anyways.

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Kousaka Otsu Shigure
#13 - 2017-01-15 06:18:24 UTC
I did a 'social suicide' back in Jan. 2009 I think.. things that tipped me off:
-login to YYYY by using your google/facebook account --- WTH is my account from another site, being connected to my YYYY account?
-help us help you recover your account by adding your phone number..
-browser geolocating features
-etc,etc.

T'was hard explaining it in job interviews though, I got thru by telling some bullshit like "I didn't need to use it 'cause the people important to me, I speak to them face to face whenever possible."

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I didn't search for her on FB - 2 days after she starts showing in my people you might know list.

You were probably seen in a picture together and/or was 'tagged' and/or was mentioned you were in the said occasion. Have you seen those kiddy facial makeup/mask apps on phones nowadays? Their ability to track facial features is.. disturbing.

*adjusts tinfoil hat*

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Facebook is using the EVE social network to grow its own social network, by plundering the information in your computer.


You know that Like button? People have been farming them, and will be doing so for years to come.

*adjusts Hir Miriel's tinfoil hat*

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Delete Facebook.... problem solved!

Your data is still on the servers. And they are using it as well, without you knowing. Ignorance is Bliss, I guess.

Oh I remember an early article about one guy requesting all the data about his account in the FB servers to be sent to him, after he deleted his account. He received it in cdroms or dvdroms, via mail.


It's all 'public data' for these people. I've even seen nullsec players here in eve do these 'public data analysis' to smoke out spais in their midst.

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Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2017-01-15 06:36:09 UTC
Demonspawn 666 wrote:
I hate facebook.


That. I only ever touched it when someone forced me with a gun.. or with a business offer. Now I have one more reason for that.

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#15 - 2017-01-15 10:49:42 UTC
Kousaka Otsu Shigure wrote:

You were probably seen in a picture together and/or was 'tagged' and/or was mentioned you were in the said occasion. Have you seen those kiddy facial makeup/mask apps on phones nowadays? Their ability to track facial features is.. disturbing.


I'm fairly sure none of that explains it here, would take a boringly long post to explain why. Also even assuming it was the case there were several other people who would ostensibly fit the same parameters who have never shown in the list that I have noticed.
Gwenaelle de Ardevon
Ardevon Corporation
#16 - 2017-01-15 10:57:42 UTC
There is an better life without Fakebook.Cool
Nobody needs the asocial media...Big smileBig smile

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#17 - 2017-01-15 11:57:37 UTC
^^ Like eve social media is largely what you make of it - for the most part there are mechanisms to hide the spam, etc. I largely use it to keep up with close family/relatives who are now a bit spread out and organising work events, etc. and pretty much everything else is blocked.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2017-01-15 12:20:40 UTC
Facebook is very creepy, which is why I don't use it. A couple years back my friends almost managed to drag me into it, but I had a similar experience to OP: It immediately knew who my friends were, and even listed a couple of people from school who I had not been in contact with for 10 or so years, even through I told it pretty much nothing about me. I immediately closed the account, installed DoNotTrackMe and never touched anything that said "Facebook" on it ever again.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#19 - 2017-01-15 14:12:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Facebook is all about making information and data about their users, real or otherwise, work for them. Other companies also put the data that Facebook makes publicly available, to work, for themselves.

Why is the OP surprised by this?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Khan Wrenth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2017-01-15 14:13:11 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Facebook is very creepy, which is why I don't use it. A couple years back my friends almost managed to drag me into it, but I had a similar experience to OP: It immediately knew who my friends were, and even listed a couple of people from school who I had not been in contact with for 10 or so years, even through I told it pretty much nothing about me. I immediately closed the account, installed DoNotTrackMe and never touched anything that said "Facebook" on it ever again.

Almost my exact experience. Except I did not know of "DoNotTrackMe", otherwise this is my story verbatim.

Look, FaceBook as an entity violates the rules of common sense that were established back when the internet really started to become an everyday consumer product instead of a niche thing rich folks tinkered with - you never put your name out there. Never. Never. Of course there's services that require it (like online banking), but there's a difference between having your name publicly visible on some fad site and your private communications between yourself and your credit card company.

It's not just that Facebook wants your name (which I know is the LEAST of the concerns, but I'm going for a different point). It's that they absolutely demand it. Back when chat rooms were a thing, I had several accounts with different chat programs. Yahoo, AOL, ICQ, mIRC, etc. And I had different handles and passwords for all of them. None of them needed a "name", and if they did, any random splurge of letters sufficed for them. When I tried that with facebook, it refused; citing that what I typed "was not a real name". My thoughts were, "Well no s*** Sherlock, you're not getting my real name!". Some back and forth ensued with Facebook demanding a real name until I gave them a random real name.

Nobody on the internet, save for financial transactions, needs your real name. If they demand it, it's a scam. Facebook is insidious in how it manipulates people via positive reinforcement to divulge information on their friends, family, etc. I have a bunch of relatives that use Facebook and I guarantee you that there is s***tons of information about me that they share without my consent, because we don't live in a world anymore where people respect other people's privacy.
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