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An LGBTQ+ Community?

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Morgan Garsk
Doomheim
#1 - 2017-01-12 22:17:39 UTC
When I first joined the game three years ago there was some activity in LGBT events and communities.

These days not so much. There are LGBT, GAY, and a GLBT channels, but the are organized by defunct corporations and I can't get in contact with them.

Would those of us playing that are queer enjoy a place to hangout in game and chat? Would you like to have in game events?

AttentionAttentionAttentionAttentionAttention I am NOT talking about a corporation! AttentionAttentionAttentionAttentionAttention

Let's discuss what we as a community want to do.
Marcus Rintel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-01-12 22:43:50 UTC
*Waves hand* Gay player here. Would love to get in touch with other GLBT players. Big smileCool

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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
Dreamweb Industries
Novus Ordo.
#3 - 2017-01-12 23:06:16 UTC
I'm not gay, but I'll screw you good if I see you autopiloting through the Uedama checkpoint.

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Maekchu
Doomheim
#4 - 2017-01-12 23:11:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Maekchu
Just out of curiosity, what does the Q and + stand for? Only used to people using the LGBT abbreviation.

Edit: Nvm, should just google first :D
Marcus Rintel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2017-01-12 23:17:48 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what does the Q and + stand for? Only used to people using the LGBT abbreviation.

Edit: Nvm, should just google first :D


Q = Queer
+ = All the other orientations that would reword it to QUILTBAG.

I'm an originalist... GLBT or nothing.

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Beast of Revelations
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2017-01-13 00:14:00 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what does the Q and + stand for? Only used to people using the LGBT abbreviation.


What I have trouble with is the word 'gender.' I am not a 'gender' and don't know how I couldn't possibly be one. The proper term is 'sex.' 'Gender' applies to a word.

I don't know how, why, or when this changed. All I know is, whenever I see a form nowadays to fill out my 'gender,' I just leave it blank.
Marcus Rintel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2017-01-13 00:24:57 UTC
Beast of Revelations wrote:


What I have trouble with is the word 'gender.' I am not a 'gender' and don't know how I couldn't possibly be one. The proper term is 'sex.' 'Gender' applies to a word.

I don't know how, why, or when this changed. All I know is, whenever I see a form nowadays to fill out my 'gender,' I just leave it blank.

In the US, it started in late 2000 in Academia, & has infested our Political discourse.

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Kenneth Endashi
Kor-Azor Slave Holdings
#8 - 2017-01-13 03:56:44 UTC
I think it's a fabulous idea! Good luck!
Exaido
Fire Over Light
Astral Alliance
#9 - 2017-01-13 04:47:23 UTC
Kenneth Endashi wrote:
I think it's a fabulous idea! Good luck!


Off-topic. But dude. Your avatar looks like a cross between Juiian Assange and the Fonz. Outstanding sculpt!
Cristl
#10 - 2017-01-13 05:13:05 UTC
Beast of Revelations wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what does the Q and + stand for? Only used to people using the LGBT abbreviation.


What I have trouble with is the word 'gender.' I am not a 'gender' and don't know how I couldn't possibly be one. The proper term is 'sex.' 'Gender' applies to a word.

I don't know how, why, or when this changed. All I know is, whenever I see a form nowadays to fill out my 'gender,' I just leave it blank.

I used to think this. Sex is now purely biological, while gender is how you identify sexually (and also la table, das auto etc. grammatically). Passports and other forms asking for physical identity should probably just ask 'sex'.

Why does your name have an S at the end is of greater concern.
Rollie Pollie
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2017-01-13 06:51:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Rollie Pollie
Marcus Rintel wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what does the Q and + stand for? Only used to people using the LGBT abbreviation.

Edit: Nvm, should just google first :D


Q = Queer
+ = All the other orientations that would reword it to QUILTBAG.

I'm an originalist... GLBT or nothing.


I was under the impression Q means Questioning, considering queer is just another word for gay, no?

Lesbian and Gay technically are the same thing as well so it seems redundant. Also I don't see why they keep adding letters. You are either gay, bisexual, or straight. Some trans people are gay, some are bi, some are straight. Technically if you have the brain of a girl and you're attracted to boys, I guess you'd be straight then.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#12 - 2017-01-13 07:26:44 UTC
The Great Karnak predicts this thread will get locked.

(Pro tip: this question as seen in the OP gets asked apparently every 7 - 8 months. The general answer is: we are Eve players first, last, and foremost. Everything else gets left at the door.)

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#13 - 2017-01-13 07:57:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Read "The Forever War". Society changes. Who knows, maybe we will live in completely other world in few decades. We would not have to describe our differences then and tell everyone he is different. Everyone will assume the other person is different on some level and no one will be bothered by it. The society will change together with culture and human communication norms.

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Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
#14 - 2017-01-13 11:39:50 UTC
Beast of Revelations wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what does the Q and + stand for? Only used to people using the LGBT abbreviation.


What I have trouble with is the word 'gender.' I am not a 'gender' and don't know how I couldn't possibly be one. The proper term is 'sex.' 'Gender' applies to a word.

I don't know how, why, or when this changed. All I know is, whenever I see a form nowadays to fill out my 'gender,' I just leave it blank.

Amen to that.

Connectors etc. have a gender. Living organisms have a sex.

As to why it changed, sex is a naughty word and so those of a delicate disposition preferred "gender".
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2017-01-13 12:40:00 UTC
To be fair, the guy's looking for a community to hang out with, specifically, one he feels like he'd be the most comfortable in. I don't see this as having anything to do with identity politics, it's just like anyone else looking for a community they relate to. To be fair though, OP, there are a lot of communities in this game that you would probably feel comfortable in. Don't restrict yourself to one little chamber. I love diversity, but more than diversity of sexuality/gender/race/etc, I like diversity of ideas. It comes down to this thought experiment - would you rather be in a room with a bunch of different people who all think the same, or a bunch of people who are all the same but think different? It's a false dichotomy, but, think about it.

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Beast of Revelations
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2017-01-13 13:21:07 UTC
Exaido wrote:
Kenneth Endashi wrote:
I think it's a fabulous idea! Good luck!


Off-topic. But dude. Your avatar looks like a cross between Juiian Assange and the Fonz. Outstanding sculpt!


I agree 100%! No homo :)
ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#17 - 2017-01-13 14:02:37 UTC
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I have gone through this thread and cleaned it up. Everyone in Eve deserves to find a community where they feel welcome! If you're not interested in helping the OP find or create such a community, please steer clear of this thread. Thanks!

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Hazel TuckerTS
Doomheim
#18 - 2017-01-13 16:48:05 UTC
Sure

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Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2017-01-13 19:35:02 UTC
I would hazard a guess that several of the larger organizations have sub groups that address this. Goons seem very active in proclaiming themselves and others as Gay.

What I DO know is that CCP takes a dim view of any persecution based upon race, creed, or sexual preference. If that happens? Report it. please.

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Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2017-01-13 20:29:39 UTC
Confirming that goons do indeed have SIGs for LGBTWTFBBQ (and frequently proclaim that they are indeed gay, whether they actually are or not). Can't comment on how active they are, though. I feel that an ingame community about real world interests that have nothing to do with the (meta)game may not have much staying power.
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