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Blacksmoke16 Resilience. Likes received: 72	#1 - 2017-01-05 17:00:06 UTC 3 Could you sort the skill categories in the character sheet A-Z? As of now, especially when it is just the icons, you literally have to go through every one to find what you are looking for, or try to figure out what you want based on the icon. It would be much more simple if they were just in alphabetic order.

Coreli Corporation Pandemic Legion 3,087
Rivr Luzade Coreli Corporation Pandemic Legion Likes received: 3,087	#2 - 2017-01-05 17:00:59 UTC 2 Or the category with the most SP first. Anything except for this useless random crap. UI Improvement Collective My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Caldari Provisions Caldari State 29
Dornier Pfeil Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 29	#3 - 2017-01-05 18:34:07 UTC 1 Thirded (since my like button never seems to be operative)

Amarisen Gream

The.Kin.of.Jupiter

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#4 - 2017-01-05 18:45:24 UTC | Edited by: Amarisen Gream

As long as I have played, I shrunk mine the first day and haven't looked back. The icons aren't that hard to figure out
I think the order is Ships, fittings, T3 armor/shield, weapons, some other stuff, industry and PI and last I think is trade.

Ships <---------> Trade/Industry. Not an order most would probably go for, but chaos is a form of order.

Edit: forgot to mention I am not against sorting options.

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Rivr Luzade

Coreli Corporation

Pandemic Legion

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#5 - 2017-01-05 18:59:57 UTC | Edited by: Rivr Luzade

When I look for Armor, I look for the first option in the list because it's A. When I look for the Shield category, I look at the end of the list, not somewhere in the middle. The current sorting scheme is illogical because you expect to read that list in rows, not in columns. Even read as columns, it makes little sense not to sort them alphabetically because Armor again ends up in a position where it does not naturally belongs.

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

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Shu t'Me Likes received: 36	#6 - 2017-01-06 04:35:02 UTC It used to follow the same pattern as the market section on skills. Made it rather easy that way. Now I don't use the list at all, I just use the search.

Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 777
Kenrailae Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation Likes received: 777	#7 - 2017-01-06 06:07:24 UTC 1 Sorting options please! Whether it's A-Z, most/least SP, current map, whatever, don't care. Just some way to sort it as it's pretty much the same as if the RNG just vomited all over your work station in its current state. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal

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Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce Likes received: 4,077	#8 - 2017-01-06 06:49:38 UTC The current state is as far from RNG as you can get. And is actually a logical method (That of course requires a logical mind to understand). But sorting options wouldn't be a bad thing, just don't take the current method away.


Kenrailae Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation Likes received: 777	#9 - 2017-01-06 06:54:55 UTC Nevyn Auscent wrote: The current state is as far from RNG as you can get. And is actually a logical method (That of course requires a logical mind to understand). But sorting options wouldn't be a bad thing, just don't take the current method away. That must be why you think you understand it. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal

Rivr Luzade

Coreli Corporation

Pandemic Legion

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#10 - 2017-01-06 07:18:05 UTC

Kenrailae wrote:

Nevyn Auscent wrote:

The current state is as far from RNG as you can get. And is actually a logical method (That of course requires a logical mind to understand).
But sorting options wouldn't be a bad thing, just don't take the current method away.

That must be why you think you understand it. Roll

The problem is that he is right. Read the skill categories by columns instead of rows and it makes somewhat sense (first column Ship/Ship attributes; second column ship equipment/functionalities; third column, this one breaks apart into a mess of ship stuff, leadership stuff, trade and social; and forth column production, resources and science). The sorting order within these columns is still very weird

By the looks of it this is going to be yet another case of CCP sitting things out and waiting for our muscle memories to adapt, just like they did with the undock buttons, the overview icons, industry, and whatnot else.

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Kenrailae

Center for Advanced Studies

Gallente Federation

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#11 - 2017-01-06 07:22:37 UTC | Edited by: Kenrailae

Rivr Luzade wrote:

Kenrailae wrote:

Nevyn Auscent wrote:

That must be why you think you understand it. Roll

I've looked at it that way, and even within that there are problems. Sure the first column makes sense enough. The second one is close, but the last two are complete and utter 'Uhhh.... we'll just drop that here.'

And also as you agreed, within the columns there is no order to it whatsoever. Whatever 'logic' was attempted, fails within the first column.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal

ACESsiggy

Deaths Consortium

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#12 - 2017-01-06 19:07:59 UTC

Rivr Luzade wrote:

Or the category with the most SP first. Anything except for this useless random crap.

I'm sure if you drank a cup of coffee and studied the categories for 5 minutes (taking some effort) you wouldn't have an issue. But I will say that we all love to customize our games for our liking so I can't fault you for this suggestion.

“The open-minded see the truth in different things: the narrow-minded see only the differences.”

Dornier Pfeil

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

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#13 - 2017-01-07 21:42:34 UTC | Edited by: Dornier Pfeil

ACESsiggy wrote:

Rivr Luzade wrote:

Or the category with the most SP first. Anything except for this useless random crap.

Except we shouldn't have to do any study at all; we did that when we were 2-3 years old and learning our abc's. A great deal of effort was expended to make it second nature. I see the word armor and I look to the beginning of a list. I see the word trade and I look to the end of a list. I don't have to think about it. It's as easy as breathing. And this skill is transferable to any activity a human could possibly engage in. That is why humans invented this learning heuristic. [stupid insult directed at CCP goes here]

Anyone who thinks they have to subvert a core root tool of human ~~cognizance~~cognition for no reason is simply being an %$#&@!.

edited for incorrect word choice.

GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 35,121
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 35,121	#14 - 2017-01-07 21:53:15 UTC the two-column setup is the result of zero consideration. It was just formatted that way in the layout and published. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)