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Deep Space Transport and Lots of high value trips
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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#21 - 2016-12-28 18:16:03 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:
Apex Bex wrote:
It's about 120k EHP. No one's going to gank that in a hurry.

Keep thinking this way and you will become the gankers favorite target especially if you are hauling high value cargo.
Even in high sec the gankers can go through a freighter in less than 20 seconds and most of them if fit properly are well above 150,000 EHP.

There is nothing in high sec that cannot be ganked, what keeps you off the target list is carefully controlling the value of your cargo versus the cost to the gankers in lost ships. When trying to work this out in your head remember that they are building the ships and modules they loose themselves, usually they do not by them off the markets.

Yeah but your not trying to out tank the Gankers, we know you can't.

You just have to out tank the dumbass next to you with his life in the back of his expanded freighter .

An active piloted DST is a lot smaller, a lot faster, and can mjd away if you're quick.
Sure you can be caught and popped but the harder you make it the more you're offsetting the value of your cargo.

Ralph I do not argue with you on any of this, but then I think you misread or do not understand my comment.
Apex Bex stated than no one was going to gank a 120k EHP ship in a hurry, my comment was simply to tell him that is a lie gankers can and routinely do go though ships with more than 120k EHP in less than 20 seconds.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2016-12-28 18:29:59 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:

Ralph I do not argue with you on any of this, but then I think you misread or do not understand my comment.
Apex Bex stated than no one was going to gank a 120k EHP ship in a hurry, my comment was simply to tell him that is a lie gankers can and routinely do go though ships with more than 120k EHP in less than 20 seconds.

while correct i think he was referencing target selection rather than time to kill by way of saying "in a hurry".

that said you are quite correct and im not about to argue you on it Blink

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#23 - 2016-12-29 01:50:59 UTC
Miss Negotiatrix wrote:
An orca would need someone webbing you for fast warps right? Or can you manage a mwd cloak trick with an orca

Id assume not but cant hurt to ask

And thanks again for all the advice everyone, i appreciate it


Or a higgs anchor rig. Even a Bowhead can insta-warp with one.

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Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#24 - 2016-12-29 06:28:12 UTC
Tam Arai wrote:
if youre doing in excess of 30b PI a month but using a hauling service to transport it to hisec would use up your profits, you are doing something very wrong




Thats true if I could hire them to move it all as 1 package but from what Ive seen with red frog for instance they cap each load at about 1 billion collateral

so if I could do 1 package of 30b or even 2 of 15 or so Id be fine.... but 30 seperate packages and 30 separate fees per jump... not so much.
Apex Bex
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#25 - 2016-12-29 10:11:27 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Apex Bex wrote:
It's about 120k EHP. No one's going to gank that in a hurry.

Keep thinking this way and you will become the gankers favorite target especially if you are hauling high value cargo.
Even in high sec the gankers can go through a freighter in less than 20 seconds and most of them if fit properly are well above 150,000 EHP.

There is nothing in high sec that cannot be ganked, what keeps you off the target list is carefully controlling the value of your cargo versus the cost to the gankers in lost ships. When trying to work this out in your head remember that they are building the ships and modules they loose themselves, usually they do not by them off the markets.


lol dude, you have no idea.

We used to load that thing up with 4b in officer mods that we couldn't sell on the market and AP it from Jita to Amarr just for lols. Farmed kill rights all day long and never even got close to being destroyed. If you're totally paranoid you could always use a slave clone for ridiculousness, but it's not at all necessary.

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