These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
12Next page
 

Loosing faith

Author
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-12-26 12:41:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Trasch Taranogas
Oh boy.

Really hard game to like. Mostly sitting scared and clueless in some station
watching the skills tick down.

Getting paranoid, angst.

Should do the SoE epic arc but cant even choose a proper ship, cant even fit
any ships. Always picking wrong turrets, tanks or overloading capacitor.

Going for a ride in my IS-7. I know Im feared in that beast, no hustle.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Bjorn Tyrson
Infinite Point
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#2 - 2016-12-26 12:51:01 UTC
you never learn how to fly a ship unless you undock in it. so just do it, worst case scenario you buy a new one.
keep it cheep, t1 fit if your going somewhere you suspect your going to be loosing it. shoot some rats, shoot some players, run some missions, figure out what works and what doesn't for you.

as for fitting your ship, a quick google search for any ship will bring up various different fit ideas, some will be better than others, but it gives you a starting place to work from. the e-uni wiki has fits for most ships, although some of them are a bit out of date. it still gives you a place to start.
Dibz
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-12-26 12:55:12 UTC
Sounds like your faith needs tightening.
Geronimo McVain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-12-26 12:56:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Geronimo McVain
Simple truth: you will die!

The idea in Eve is to make more ISK then you loose. You will loose your ship, don't be afraid of it. Use it to kill enough stuff that you have the money to build a new and better one.

To choose the right fitting take a look ar o.smium.org. That will give you ideas which you most likely need to tone down to fit your skills. Look at the ships in the class you want to fly and search for one that has bonusses for the thing you want to do aka weapon bonuses to blow things up or tanking bonus to last longer. Warp out if things get to hard, recharge tank and get in again. Takes time but saves your ship. If you use shield tank get out when you take armor damage, with armor tank get out at 30% armor. Better loose the side then the ship.

The fear of death is mostly exaggerated. It's highly unlikely that someone, apart from NPCs, will kill you in High Sec. It may happen but it is very unlikely. Never happened to me in 1 year in HS.
Praevus
#5 - 2016-12-26 13:03:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Praevus
If you want more WoT-like experience - no angst, no paranoia, just fleet up and shoot other players - try joining Red versus Blue for some quick newbie frigate PvP.

Disclaimer: I don't know how active they are these days.
Kalido Raddi
Crown Mineworks
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2016-12-26 13:12:31 UTC
Join a NullSec Corp/Alliance and get out of HighSec ASAP.
Tiberius Amzadee
The Night Stalker Syndicate
#7 - 2016-12-26 13:24:24 UTC
Don't lose your faith,just try not to fly what you can't afford to replace and not everyone is behind every asteroid waiting to shoot you. Well almost everyone sure but not everyone.
Skyweir Kinnison
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-12-26 14:30:25 UTC
I offered some advice in NCQ&A and you seemed like you were about to take the plunge and join a nullsec corp with your PvP account.

Let me urge you again - don't worry about training skills for PvP. Just get in there and do it. If you join a new player nullsec corp, they'll give you frigates to get blown up in. You'll have skill plans offered that guide you to various roles. Skill points are a distraction. Waiting to train into some kind of 'bigger ship' does not get you better at PvP - ships fulfil roles, they do not represent some sort of levelling up as in other games.

This game is best enjoyed with other people. Of course you are going to lose faith sitting in a station waiting for a skill queue. What's worse is that even if you do finally get to that skill goal, you'll probably be disillusioned once you fly the ship - probably by being blown up into an expensive wreck a short while after undocking.

Take the plunge. Go fight in cheap ships, with people that will advise you, and probably become firm friends as you share dangers. The adrenaline buzz in this game is like nothing else, but only out in dangerous, cruel space.

Feel free to evemail me if I can offer any personal advice.

Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.

Jet Hariere
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-12-26 15:19:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jet Hariere
Some advice from a fellow newbie. Don't be scared. Look for ship fits on Eve University to match what you want to do, then get out there and do it. Pay attention to your weapon range and set your obit range to that and get in the fray and shoot stuff. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. You will get blown up. Don't be afraid of it, expect it, do what you can to avoid it, and if it happens just learn from it, get refitted and back out there.

This game is awesome. Big smile

When you're not playing watch youtube vids because there is some awesome and informative stuff out there.
Salvos Rhoska
#10 - 2016-12-26 15:24:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
This is your 3rd GD thread along these lines, bro.

Start a blog or take it to New Player forum.
This is getting dangerously close to begging.

I already sent you 5 mil on the 2nd thread.
What else do you want.
Viktor Amarr
#11 - 2016-12-26 15:31:07 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
This is your 3rd GD thread along these lines, bro.

Start a blog or take it to New Player forum.
This is getting dangerously close to begging.

I already sent you 5 mil on the 2nd thread.
What else do you want.


Attention.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc.
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#12 - 2016-12-26 15:37:56 UTC
Every man dies....


What you do is up to you here..... all just YOU!! Like real life, which is why theres no manual, no instructions and your flying from the seat of your pants!!

Best to enjoy the ride and if you need to believe youre flying when your just falling to your fiery death.Twisted

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Already Replaced.
#13 - 2016-12-26 15:44:03 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Oh boy.

Really hard game to like. Mostly sitting scared and clueless in some station
watching the skills tick down.

Getting paranoid, angst.

Should do the SoE epic arc but cant even choose a proper ship, cant even fit
any ships. Always picking wrong turrets, tanks or overloading capacitor.

Going for a ride in my IS-7. I know Im feared in that beast, no hustle.


Just about every post you've made her has been some kind of complaint or whine. And yet you've just started the game, a game many thousands of other people have played and enjoyed comfortable for more than a decade.

Pretty good indicator that the problem is your expectations and lack of patience. Regardless of what CCP says or tries to do, EVE is not and can not be a game for everyone.
stoicfaux
#14 - 2016-12-26 15:49:58 UTC
Dibz wrote:
Sounds like your faith needs tightening.

This is the problem with Eve, vets need to provide newbies with more than just a vague/useless "try harder" comment.

My advice: "Left loosey, righty tighty." OP should sit in station and ship-spin clockwise!

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#15 - 2016-12-26 15:59:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Well, EVE demands. Be patient. Take things slowly. SP ticks every minute. Every second. Someday it will be easier, and you wil even gain confidence using knowledge you acquired during play sessions.
Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#16 - 2016-12-26 16:21:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Mieyli
Eve isn't the type of game where you can read enough to know everything about an activity before you've done it. You can only learn by doing and yes, you will die a lot.

If you ask me for advice I would definitely say 'join a group!'. In WoT you are part of a team and if you die your team can still win, not only that but as part of a group there's far less chance of you being the unlucky sod who gets primaried and blown up. In a group you will have less pressure on you to make learning the ropes easier, and you'll be flying with experienced players who know what to do. Flying with an experienced group will quickly get you up feeling competent in a fleet.

Flying solo you have only your actions to blame for your success or failure, and no offense but as a new player you will have literally no idea of what you should be doing. Once you feel more sure of your abilities you can go off solo if that's what you want, but there's all sorts of playstyles in this game. Try play with a few groups and get a feel for what you like, find your niche and master it.

This post brought to you by CCP's alpha forum alt initiative. Playing the eve forums has never come cheaper.

Bargain Benny
Doomheim
#17 - 2016-12-27 00:58:49 UTC
In Eve, it is best to join a corp once you have your bearings and some ISK. Use numbers to mask your inadequacies, and benefit from corp services (like skill plans, free ships, social interaction, intel sharing). Once you're a bit more competent and losing a ship isn't the end of the world for you, start venturing out on your own. You might go your own way and lone wolf it, or you might find another group more focused on the activities you find fun.

Playing Eve solo as a newbro can be fun if you like the challenge or the therapeutic repetition of missions and mining, but for most it just kind of sucks.
Tesal
#18 - 2016-12-27 01:45:05 UTC
I sent you a small amount of ISK to get started. Don't be afraid to lose it.
Yolandar
LOCVST
#19 - 2016-12-27 01:57:44 UTC
I'm loosing faith in the English language
Kenrailae
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#20 - 2016-12-27 02:20:16 UTC
Pfffft.... who's afraid of an IS7?

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal

12Next page