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Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-12-25 19:09:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Trasch Taranogas
How can anybody in their right mind like mining?

Am I missing something?

Tried to get cloaking skillbok ISK by mining, taking forever.

How can that book be 3 500 000 ISK? Could buy the original
Guthenberg Bible for less.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#2 - 2016-12-25 19:19:28 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
How can that book be 3 500 000 ISK?
Train up a capital pilot if you want to know what expensive skillbooks look like. Or a builder, with 30+ books at 10 million a pop.

You noobies can be so precious sometimes.

Mr Epeen Cool
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-12-25 19:22:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Trasch Taranogas
Mr Epeen wrote:
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
How can that book be 3 500 000 ISK?
Train up a capital pilot if you want to know what expensive skillbooks look like. Or a builder, with 30+ books at 10 million a pop.

You noobies can be so precious sometimes.

Mr Epeen Cool



Compared to other "must have" intro skillbooks not passing 1 mill.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.
Vigirr
#4 - 2016-12-25 19:22:46 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
How can anybody in their right mind like mining?

Am I missing something?


No. Mining is for lazy non-efforts, alts and for the select people who actually really enjoy the whole process of gathering materials and production. That and a few people who do this while busy irl, make a few bucks while afk. But the majority are just non-efforts who will, of course, never own up to it.

If you're a living, breathing person with brain activity then just don't mine.
Exaido
Fire Over Light
#5 - 2016-12-25 19:24:17 UTC
You'll learn to love it as I have. It's a calm break from the otherwise madness of Eve.
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2016-12-25 19:29:08 UTC
people like mining because its something they can do semi-afk.

For example right now I don't really feel like actively flying or doing anything more complicated than browsing the forums, posting on facebook etc. so I've got a basic mining character logged in sitting in a belt that I alt tab back too every minute or so just to check in on. (yes I know having a second monitor works better for that, but I don't have one at the moment)

no its not great ISK, but its more isk than I'd be making just ship spinning and takes about the same level of focus.

If you want to specialize there is some pretty good ISK to be made out in 0.0 and WH space with proper fleet support, but that can be more dangerous and requires appreciably more focus and concentration... wanna make some quick isk for that cloaking book, AND not be quite as bored mining. take your venture out into w-space. you will get much more valuable ore, and will need to pay a lot more attention to what is going on if you don't want to get blown up.

bonus to this, ventures are dirt cheep so replacing them takes next to nothing. in fact we just got given one for free the other day. go get that one blown up.
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-12-25 19:32:40 UTC
Hmm, what is more important?

Defence, ore yield or cargo hold.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#8 - 2016-12-25 19:44:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Pahrdi
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Hmm, what is more important?

Defence, ore yield or cargo hold.

Depends on how easy you want to blow up.

Edit: And you really want to ask this kind of question over here or over there.

Remove standings and insurance.
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-12-25 19:58:00 UTC
W-space = defense

Lo-sec = yield

Hi-sec = hold

Elementary dear Spock.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.
Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#10 - 2016-12-25 20:04:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Sequester Risalo
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
How can anybody in their right mind like mining?

Am I missing something?

Tried to get cloaking skillbok ISK by mining, taking forever.

How can that book be 3 500 000 ISK? Could buy the original
Guthenberg Bible for less.


If mining is fun, relaxing or tedious is debatable. It takes seven venture holds to buy this skillbook. That shoudn't take too long.
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-12-25 20:10:13 UTC
Got the book.

Dancing around like nobodys watching, cloaked.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.
Josef Djugashvilis
#12 - 2016-12-25 20:14:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Dear OP, corp mining is one of the most sociable things to do in Eve.

Putting the world to rights whilst earning isk is a decent way to pass the time.

Solo mining, on the other hand...unless it has improved in the nine or so years since I have mined (in any way shape or form) using my Iteron 3 armed with civilian lasers.

Boy, I sure got laughed at by the more able Eve players.

This is not a signature.
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-12-25 20:22:15 UTC
Yeah.

You are all right, its a question of attitude.

Even if Im not into mining I could well stand guard
for a group of corporate miners.

Even if you have the passion doesnt mean you have the ability,
but if you find something you are able of bring in your passion.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2016-12-25 20:32:44 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
W-space = defense

Lo-sec = yield

Hi-sec = hold

Elementary dear Spock.

If you think so...
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2016-12-25 20:50:05 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
W-space = defense

Lo-sec = yield

Hi-sec = hold

Elementary dear Spock.


this seems fairly backwards to me.

Wspace. - bit of a toss up between yield and tank for me. If you have people who can come to provide backup then tank can let you hold on long enough for a rescue. but without support I'd go with yield, because if you get caught your going down no matter how good your tank might be. so may as well suck as much of the high value stuff as you can to help pay for the ship on the odd occasion you do get caught.

Lo-sec - Tank, you have belt rats to deal with which will chew through you if you aren't prepared for them and you are less likely to have corp mates ratting to keep things clear for you. Yield would be a close second for the same reasons as above. get in, get out, if your talking about a venture then yield becomes the clear winner.

null - Yield, with the intel networks that exist out in null there is very little chance of you being caught unawares, and you will probably have corp mates around keeping the belts clear of rats for you. may as well make bank.

Hi-sec... NEVER, EVER, fit for hold in HS. doing so is literally begging to get ganked. not only does fitting for hold reduce your tank, but it also paints a big ol' "i'm a juicy loot piniata" sign on your head. Tank all the way.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#16 - 2016-12-25 21:27:40 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Hmm, what is more important?

Defence, ore yield or cargo hold.

barges come in three types

the ones that mine the most

the ones that mine the fastest

the ones that dont get murdered

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Vigirr
#17 - 2016-12-25 21:29:28 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Hmm, what is more important?

Defence, ore yield or cargo hold.

barges come in three types

the ones that mine the most

the ones that mine the fastest

the ones that dont get murdered


Choose wisely.
Marcus Rintel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2016-12-25 21:35:23 UTC
When I'm experiencing a large bout on Insomnia, I mine. After about 3 trips, I'm done, and can pass out. Though I am training to be a Production and Industry person. Liking the idea of selling what I make to you all to blow up. LOL. Just need to get my sub again to access the better P&I skills.

8 Golden rules of EVE
Marcus Blackthorn
Royal Assassins Guild
Chained Reactions
#19 - 2016-12-25 22:05:50 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
W-space = defense

Lo-sec = yield

Hi-sec = hold

Elementary dear Spock.


this seems fairly backwards to me.

Wspace. - bit of a toss up between yield and tank for me. If you have people who can come to provide backup then tank can let you hold on long enough for a rescue. but without support I'd go with yield, because if you get caught your going down no matter how good your tank might be. so may as well suck as much of the high value stuff as you can to help pay for the ship on the odd occasion you do get caught.

Lo-sec - Tank, you have belt rats to deal with which will chew through you if you aren't prepared for them and you are less likely to have corp mates ratting to keep things clear for you. Yield would be a close second for the same reasons as above. get in, get out, if your talking about a venture then yield becomes the clear winner.

null - Yield, with the intel networks that exist out in null there is very little chance of you being caught unawares, and you will probably have corp mates around keeping the belts clear of rats for you. may as well make bank.

Hi-sec... NEVER, EVER, fit for hold in HS. doing so is literally begging to get ganked. not only does fitting for hold reduce your tank, but it also paints a big ol' "i'm a juicy loot piniata" sign on your head. Tank all the way.




I agree with Hi-sec (and probably the others, only really mined in hi-sec though). For me Hi-sec is tank or GTFO ability depending on which ship I'm using.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#20 - 2016-12-25 22:15:18 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
W-space = defense

Lo-sec = yield

Hi-sec = hold

Elementary dear Spock.

BOOM!

Remove standings and insurance.
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