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CCPlease: Jita = No fire zone
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Maria Senseye
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-12-18 02:16:59 UTC
From Ascension update, being in Jita is like playing on an old pc, everything lags out there ... can't align, warp, dock or fleeing in space without having a shuttering effect on camera and controls, warping to a celestial or station ? Nope! You could be teleported back to where you've started cause ... the server didn't tracked your movement due to high overload! If you undock to get out of that system ... somebody thinks that is a good ideea to fire some fireworks which renders 10fps!

Everything but EVERYTHING is fine outside Jita, even with highest quality settings, no lags, no fps drop ... but not in there! Before Ascension update we didn't had +1500 in system at any time, now we do ... and it's completely awful to be in the largest new eden market.

Defining Jita as a no fire zone would get off a large partion of the lag generation machine, we don't have something like this in the entire new eden ... and I'm sure it won't hurt.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-12-18 02:18:06 UTC
- buy new pc
- stop going jita
- Use your brain instead!
- Stop posting nonsense

- win?
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2016-12-18 02:25:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Maria Senseye wrote:
Defining Jita as a no fire zone would get off a large partion of the lag generation machine, we don't have something like this in the entire new eden ... and I'm sure it won't hurt.

No thanks.

I don't go to Jita often, but in all of New Eden it is unique. Amarr doesn't even come close as the next busiest trade hub.

That uniqueness has character and it's all player created. IMO, I'd rather Jita not just be forced to be like every other system. That uniqueness is a plus.

Whether it's shooting the monument, creating images in space with mobile depots, ganking, wardec related kills, duels, etc. the IV-4 undock is always busy. Let's keep it that way.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2016-12-18 02:29:10 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Maria Senseye wrote:
Before Ascension update we didn't had +1500 in system at any time, now we do ... and it's completely awful to be in the largest new eden market.

Quote:
Before Ascension update we didn't had +1500 in system at any time

Quote:
we didn't had +1500 in system


Lol




Oh... you're serious?

Lol



In all seriousness... do the smart thing and turn off all graphics before going to that godforsaken system.
Or go to a different trade hub.

How did you Veterans start?
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#5 - 2016-12-18 02:36:16 UTC
Yes. Jita is crappy because Ascension.

This makes total sense. This update broke EvE. Or Jita. Ot something.

CCPlease stop letting the alphas ****post here. It's bad enough already with only our regular subscribers ****posting.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#6 - 2016-12-18 02:51:59 UTC
Brackets are a big one. Turning them off doesn't completely fix things where lag and such are concerned, but it helps quite a bit in places like Jita. Click on the overview options (Top left of overview, looks like a stack of horizontal lines) and select "Hide All Brackets" from the drop-down.

Turning off the sensor overlay may help too. That can be disabled by hovering your mouse over any part of the artificial compass that encircles your "HUD circle", I believe it's called, and clicking on the "On" button at the top of the drop-down that appears. That will remove all the sensor markers such as the brackets around landmarks and anom/sig site location in space.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Pix Severus
Empty You
#7 - 2016-12-18 03:12:00 UTC
Amarr
Dodixie
Rens
Hek

Choose one.

They are all far more interesting than Jita (except when there's a riot going on) because you can actually hold a conversation there without being drowned-out by scam spammers.

If you know what you're doing market-wise, you won't miss Jita.

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#8 - 2016-12-18 03:49:03 UTC
lol....LOL.......LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL..... wait!! let me get my tear bucket.....Lol

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-12-18 04:15:17 UTC
There's no such thing as a no fire zone in EVE.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#10 - 2016-12-18 04:39:16 UTC
Ah, so good to be back.

Jita is crowded and laggy, so they should make it a no violence place so that it becomes even more crowded and laggy than before.

Sure, this makes sense.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-12-18 05:06:50 UTC
So, time to go to jita and get some fireworks and festival launchers, you say?


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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-12-18 06:51:47 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
I'll echo what everyone else has said, while adding that I've been to Jita many times since Ascension without any of the problems you seem to be having.

The industry window, on the other hand, has been a real turd since then (facilities tab, especially), but it's not hard to see that they're likely related with the addition of ECs, and it's already been acknowledged in the issues threads.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

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Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#13 - 2016-12-18 07:55:33 UTC
Maria Senseye wrote:
From Ascension update, being in Jita is like playing on an old pc, everything lags out there ... can't align, warp, dock or fleeing in space without having a shuttering effect on camera and controls, warping to a celestial or station ? Nope! You could be teleported back to where you've started cause ... the server didn't tracked your movement due to high overload! If you undock to get out of that system ... somebody thinks that is a good ideea to fire some fireworks which renders 10fps!

Everything but EVERYTHING is fine outside Jita, even with highest quality settings, no lags, no fps drop ... but not in there! Before Ascension update we didn't had +1500 in system at any time, now we do ... and it's completely awful to be in the largest new eden market.

Defining Jita as a no fire zone would get off a large partion of the lag generation machine, we don't have something like this in the entire new eden ... and I'm sure it won't hurt.

WoW.


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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-12-18 08:30:08 UTC
Your CPU is probably ancient. Turn down your settings or buy a new one.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#15 - 2016-12-18 09:43:20 UTC
I've recently been to Jita with over 2800 in system - worked fine. There is some lag but a lot better than the old days when traffic control would have stopped me in Perimeter!

Speaking of Perimeter, I'm now finding half the stuff I regularly purchase in Jita listed there at competitive prices - give that market a bit more time to mature and I may not need to go to Jita at all.
Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries
#16 - 2016-12-18 09:59:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Shayla Etherodyne
Maria Senseye wrote:
From Ascension update, being in Jita is like playing on an old pc, everything lags out there ... can't align, warp, dock or fleeing in space without having a shuttering effect on camera and controls, warping to a celestial or station ? Nope! You could be teleported back to where you've started cause ... the server didn't tracked your movement due to high overload! If you undock to get out of that system ... somebody thinks that is a good ideea to fire some fireworks which renders 10fps!

Everything but EVERYTHING is fine outside Jita, even with highest quality settings, no lags, no fps drop ... but not in there! Before Ascension update we didn't had +1500 in system at any time, now we do ... and it's completely awful to be in the largest new eden market.

Defining Jita as a no fire zone would get off a large partion of the lag generation machine, we don't have something like this in the entire new eden ... and I'm sure it won't hurt.


I think it is more a problem linked to the citadel/engineering complexes. More markets in range, a good number of them with different rules, more science/production jobs (an the science interface has slowed down for a few days) and so on.

CCP don't like much "Jita the one trading hub", so they will not do something to enforce that position. While having every ganker and his grandmother waiting for targets in Jita is fairly annoying, it is part of the game. It will not change.

BTW, Making Jita "no fire zone" would only move the fighting to the nearby systems.
Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
Citizen's Star Republic
#17 - 2016-12-18 10:22:42 UTC
hmph, its not so bad......

Anybody remember 2011, when Jita was like TiDi x10 and pvp there was a guaranteed death for someone?
Vigirr
#18 - 2016-12-18 10:31:15 UTC
OP, stop having dumb ideas.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#19 - 2016-12-18 10:33:04 UTC
Welcome back to the weekly Jita show Pirate.

Remove standings and insurance.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#20 - 2016-12-18 11:06:57 UTC
The client detects when you shitpost on an alt, and adjusts performance accordingly. You only have yourself to blame, you know

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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