EVE General Discussion

I think it's odd CCP didn't open up this post for discussion, so to save them the time to fix their many other mistakes I figured I'd create the post for them.

Please everyone share your experience of this battle because CCP needs to know what it's really like for its players either good or bad please share with the community and CCP.

Thanks,

AG.

I knew it would be a fight in TiDi. I also knew Otay be difficult to get there late, but it fit my currently limited playstyle as well. So... With bomber and permission from Baby Momma/It's complicated, to have the time off from parental duties for the start of the fight, I set off early.

By Monday I was in system, setting up various bookmarks. I could start flying away from The keepstar, read a few books to my daughter, bookmark after I was done to get several escape points and still be good. So by Wednesday I was ready to go.

By Saturday, I was in a good spot. I logged in early, made sure my graphic settings were low and the brackets were turned off. I earpped to grid. I was there when the fighting started and local peeled around 5300. Given other null battles I attended either in a real fleet or as a solo bomber just trying to cause problems, the M-O fight was impressive. Yes things were slow but things worked. I found warping to be far easier to get in place instead of flying while cloaked. I also learned how to time my bombing run in such TiDi. I launched a few from my bomber before being caught and killed... Well... I lost my ship but the pod escaped. I then warped to a safe in system and self destructed to get home easily. I figured I would miss the killmail as I Did not attack the keepstar directly.

Fast forward several hours, after making dinner and spending time with my daughter, I put her to bed. I was in Amarr, so grabbed a new bomber and headed over by way of Taisy. I figured at best I would die in the way, but at least I could say I tried. Luck and a lack of a my major camps made the trip quick. I managed to get back on grid (having a 12k km off keepstar was great!). I managed to drop 6 more bombs that evening, including one in the keepstar and a few after the dust had settled. I made the killmail, probably did little else in the actual battle and successfully bombed a rookie ship into oblivion which isn't much, but made me happy. I even made it back to Amarr in that 2nd bomber.

Over all, it was fun and what I expected. TiDi isn't pleasant but sure beats the previous sysyem. I got to drop bombs, which I enjoy, and had a decent evening. Plus I can say I was there.

Would I to it again.... May be. Depends on free time and if there would be a real fight next time. However considering there were so e 5300 people in one system, it was worth seeing at least once. Perhaps come next time I'll be back in a Corp and be able to be in comms for more fun but it worked for me in general.

The awful design of this game keeps making itself apparent, and kool-aid drinkers continue to make excuses instead of recognizing that it is indeed crap gameplay.

no wonder they are trying to sell this sinking ship. Incompetence permeates the highest offices at CCP and the forum dwelling troglodytes are incapable of seeing the game any different than the steaming pile of **** that is served to them.

Thankyou for your constructive post.
Due to the obvious benefit to EVE and the world in general, every one of your brilliantly insightful solutions to these issues have already been implemented, ready for the next patch.
I'm sure your Nobel Prizes for literature and engineering are already in the mail.

circle of pussies

they should have went down with the ship

Why? They were losing a keepstar already, why lose a fleet or two as well? Just so their enemies get content? That seems foolish. Better to do something their members will enjoy. I thought they found a good fight killing supers elsewhere.

Kinda like going to war, riding my bike coast to coast, driving a big truck to Alaska and leaving Her @ the altar: Gotta do it at least once, but probably not twice.

And hell, I never even fired a shot, me in a Nemesis with a full load out of torpedoes. Too busy staying out of peoples way and capturing video. And one of these days maybe even figure out what to do with all that video.

The problem was not the tidi, which is expected, it the stupid damage cap mechanics which strung the fight out for an unnecessarily long time.

Under the old system once it became apparent a fight was not occurring, supers would be dropped to speed up the structure bash, in keeping with risk reward philosophy of eve (more risk on field, reward being the quicker kill).

Damage cap means player choices like this is curtailed, since the supers are redundant when the cap is already being reached.

It quite funny since damage caps were designed to prevent blobbing, but as we see, the biggest blob in the entire history of the game came for this. The theory didn't work since people still happily turn up to do 0 damage. The cap multiplied by time creates a de facto HP on the citadel, so essentially it is dominion again, but now with less choice and fewer options due to obsession with "muh small gang". In fact for this fight their original idea of entosing citadels would have been better.

The streamer I watched had their final explosion of the keepstar glitch out and there was no final explosion.
That didn't sell EvE to the masses watching.

It was a first for the game, a widely advertised vulnerability window where everyone was going to show up. Don't think that it will be the norm as far as killing Keepstars go. The damage cap is in there for a reason, to at least give the defenders *some* time to defend their investment. A battle of several thousand players at 10% tidi is going to last several hours anyway because it turns 30 minutes of game time into 5 hours of real time. Your problem IS with tidi as without it the Keepstar would die in 30 minutes.
Actually, no. Your problem is with massive battles of thousands of players which then cause tidi. No one is forcing you to show up to those fights.

And yes, the explosion glitched and that sucked. Mine showed up about 5-10 minutes after the Keepstar had already been destroyed. I guess CCP didn't have 5,000 people to test these things beforehand.

My point is, everything you're complaining about is normally expected out of battles of these sizes. The example of going to a super packed party then complaining that there's no room is apt.