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Hi CCP, this is a little annoying TBH

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
#21 - 2016-12-10 09:46:42 UTC
This is what one of my toons was using to ninja ice mine in lowsec and null npc, of course I have something nasty waiting nearby for players, but in affect it can deal with low sec rats easily. The probe launcher is because I often use WH's to move around.

[Endurance]
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Ice Harvester Upgrade II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner

Prototype Cloaking Device I
Ice Mining Laser II
Core Probe Launcher I

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router II

Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x1

Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8

Of course people may have better fits, but it works well for me...

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#22 - 2016-12-10 09:59:44 UTC
Hendrix Foster wrote:

May I be pertinent to suggest



I don't think this word means what you think it means.

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Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#23 - 2016-12-10 11:38:05 UTC
Hendrix Foster wrote:
OK, I am in low sec and warp to an ice belt in a combat ship to maybe clear the belt and there are no rats there......OK cool, go back to station and get in a mining ship and go back to the same belt.....no-one there and then start mining.

20 seconds after start mining then a bunch of rats turn up and as I'm in my Prospect then have to bail to the station.....and get my combat ship to go clear the belt again. Get to the belt in my combat ship and the rats have disappeared, even if I hang there for a minute or two they don't show back up.

So, go back to get my mining ship and go back to the belt to mine and the rats turn up again 20-30 second after I start mining....rinse and repeat.

Very annoying tbh CCP.

May I be pertinent to suggest that if rats turn up in a belt they should stay there for a while. Is that asking too much?

Yes, many will say what's the problem, miners should have a hard time etc......but this sucks


Straight
Elenahina
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2016-12-10 11:43:30 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Hendrix Foster wrote:

May I be pertinent to suggest



I don't think this word means what you think it means.


So I went to look up that word, just to make sure it meant what I thought it meant and I learned a new word - apposite.

Cheers, Bumble, for expanding my vocabulary today.

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2016-12-10 11:51:04 UTC
Then don't solo mine in low sec or get a second account and dual screen

Less whinging please

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2016-12-10 12:38:44 UTC
Hendrix Foster wrote:
Ok...maybe you folks are right...but mining in low sec is already hard enough and a fool's errand in many ways/forms..

This situation just compounds the issue.

Switch to Endurance. Fitted for tank it does not care about rats at all. I always use it semi-afk in zerosec.

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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc
Templis CALSF
#27 - 2016-12-10 14:05:23 UTC
OP please mine the ice belt in Kehjari since it's totally safe because local is always blue.

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Suroh Kurvora
Foxes and Kitties and Fun
#28 - 2016-12-13 00:51:32 UTC
Hendrix Foster wrote:
Ok...maybe you folks are right...but mining in low sec is already hard enough and a fool's errand in many ways/forms..

This situation just compounds the issue.


You're right, only a fool would waste his time mining in low sec, and only a clown would attempt to solo mine low sec.

I mean really though you should at least have an escort if you're trying to clear an ice belt lol.
Rin Vocaloid2
DUST University
#29 - 2016-12-13 02:03:26 UTC
Sounds like the rats are getting smarter and learning to go after weaker ships while avoiding the combat-capable ones.

If I were a rat and saw you warp off in your mining ship, why should I stick around long enough for you to come back in a ship that can kill me?
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
Flames of Exile
#30 - 2016-12-13 03:33:42 UTC  |  Edited by: PopeUrban
You have three options:

1: Use a ship that can handle the belt rats. Mining ships aside from expedition frigs are designed specifically to be tanky and carry enough drone DPS to defend themselves from rats. (Or rather, the rats are generally designed to be weak enough mining ships can kill them while mining) You're in losec. If you mine aligned to something you can fairly easily bounce if someone sketchy shows up in local. We have people in corp that mine in losec in cheap 20 mil t1 barges and have no problem handling rats and keeping safe from hostile players, and we don't control the systems they mine in or even make much effort to remain particularly close by.

2: Get friends. EVE is not a solo game, and expecting to solve all of your problems by simply reshipping in not a sustainable long term strategy. There's plenty to do in losec for a friend in a combat vessel besides watching you mine, including ratting the other belts, doing combat anoms, killing people who want to **** with you, generally being a discouraging +1 in local and he'd be one short warp away from clearing out your rats occasionally.

3: Use the ship for what it is designed for. Expedition frigs aren't designed to clear whole belts worth of stuff. They're designed to warp fast and mount cloaks or probe scanners so they can get around quickly to find and ninja mine only the best stuff. If you're trying to mine out a whole belt in an expedition frig you are using the ship wrong. You should be flying around, hoovering up the most valuable stuff, and bouncing when it gets too hot to quickly find more valuable stuff, then using that amazing mobility to get your mighly valuable but small ore/gas/ice haul back to a safe place. You know, taking an expedition and not camping one system.
Sir Dude
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2016-12-13 13:44:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Sir Dude
Bumblefck wrote:
Hendrix Foster wrote:

May I be pertinent to suggest



I don't think this word means what you think it means.


Wrong.

Pertinent = ..having a clear decisive relevance to the matter.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pertinent

So...he said for the hard of understanding types "Maybe I can be clear and decisive enough to relevantly suggest...." bha bha bha.

Not saying I agree with him on the other stuff....just commenting.
Cristl
#32 - 2016-12-13 14:50:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Cristl
Sir Dude wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Hendrix Foster wrote:

May I be pertinent to suggest



I don't think this word means what you think it means.


Wrong.

Pertinent = ..having a clear decisive relevance to the matter.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pertinent

So...he said for the hard of understanding types "May I can be clear and decisive enough to relevantly suggest...." bha bha bha.

Not saying I agree with him on the other stuff....just commenting.

No, he was just incorrect, and I assume meant to say: "Would I be impertinent to suggest..."

Adjective + Infinitive constructions are typically used to express feeling or reactions: "I was happy to receive your nudes". I can't think of other constructions, really.

Edit: however, "I found it difficult to decide on a Christmas present" is fine, so maybe not just emotions and reactions. Anyway, the original construction isn't correct.
Sir Dude
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2016-12-13 15:05:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Sir Dude
The English language can often be ambiguous at the best of times and many such utterances of whatever flavour can now be argued as acceptable by some. Not to mention the official dictionaries accepting all kinds of nonsense now as real.

I hear much in conversation these days I disagree with, but it is passed off as 'common usuage' etc.

There are now more non-native speakers than native ones...haha.

Funny...o7
Miss Stardust
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2016-12-13 15:32:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Miss Stardust
Dracvlad wrote:


[Endurance]
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Ice Harvester Upgrade II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner

Prototype Cloaking Device I
Ice Mining Laser II
Core Probe Launcher I

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router II

Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x1

Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8

Of course people may have better fits, but it works well for me...


- I like one Drone Damage Amplifier II in the lows, in lieu of the third IHU II. Also tweak the PG/rig situation and fit a polycarbon for sooper fast align AND additional cloaked sublight velocity. I roll a throwaway clone with a 1% ice cycle implant and pull a block in 61.5s. If you are using a Prospect to mine ice you are doing it wrong.
Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#35 - 2016-12-13 21:53:46 UTC
Hendrix Foster wrote:
OK, I am in low sec and warp to an ice belt in a combat ship to maybe clear the belt and there are no rats there......OK cool, go back to station and get in a mining ship and go back to the same belt.....no-one there and then start mining.

20 seconds after start mining then a bunch of rats turn up and as I'm in my Prospect then have to bail to the station.....and get my combat ship to go clear the belt again. Get to the belt in my combat ship and the rats have disappeared, even if I hang there for a minute or two they don't show back up.

So, go back to get my mining ship and go back to the belt to mine and the rats turn up again 20-30 second after I start mining....rinse and repeat.

Very annoying tbh CCP.

May I be pertinent to suggest that if rats turn up in a belt they should stay there for a while. Is that asking too much?

Yes, many will say what's the problem, miners should have a hard time etc......but this sucks


Next time contact CODE., they are specialists when it gets to ratting, mining, etc., they will ensure that you are protected from rats at all costs.
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