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WTS eve (really?)

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Xayder
modro
The Initiative.
#41 - 2016-12-09 17:14:21 UTC
Well, less hope Chris Roberts dont buy it. Otherwise we will see what P2P really means

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Kiaksar2142
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2016-12-09 17:29:03 UTC
if EA gets this game, its screwed... remember all other companies that EA bought. their projects was like dead after a year or two...
If someone like EA buys this game i will just stop playing personally.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#43 - 2016-12-09 17:39:41 UTC
Kiaksar2142 wrote:
if EA gets this game, its screwed... remember all other companies that EA bought. their projects was like dead after a year or two...
If someone like EA buys this game i will just stop playing personally.


Yeah EA buying EVE is a cashout event.

But far more likely is that this is some private investors, not another publisher.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Kiaksar2142
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2016-12-09 17:43:32 UTC
Malcanis wrote:

But far more likely is that this is some private investors, not another publisher.


Yeah but still, if another giant publisher like EA gets this game, its officially screwed.

I think new jita burn party coming right up... lol
Stevn Thomas
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2016-12-09 17:52:38 UTC
dhunpael wrote:
Would be interesting to get an answer from the devs
thing is this happens all the time. Just from the ones I know about,

GE has not bought out IBM

Apple still does not own several video game makersthey talked to

Paramount is still owned by Viacom

That said most mergers fail. And in some cases fail spectacularly.

mkint
#46 - 2016-12-09 17:58:50 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Kiaksar2142 wrote:
if EA gets this game, its screwed... remember all other companies that EA bought. their projects was like dead after a year or two...
If someone like EA buys this game i will just stop playing personally.


Yeah EA buying EVE is a cashout event.

But far more likely is that this is some private investors, not another publisher.

With the tripling of the market valuation, it looks like ANY sale is a cash out event for those involved. They have no reason to care what happens beyond sale day. If EA has the best liquidation plan and can therefore pay the most, it's going to EA, regardless what the devs themselves think about it, and especially regardless what the players think about it.

So the real question is who are the likeliest buyers ranked from subhuman villains (EA) to reasonably benign (passive portfolio investors)?

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#47 - 2016-12-09 18:05:09 UTC
mkint wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Kiaksar2142 wrote:
if EA gets this game, its screwed... remember all other companies that EA bought. their projects was like dead after a year or two...
If someone like EA buys this game i will just stop playing personally.


Yeah EA buying EVE is a cashout event.

But far more likely is that this is some private investors, not another publisher.

With the tripling of the market valuation, it looks like ANY sale is a cash out event for those involved. They have no reason to care what happens beyond sale day. If EA has the best liquidation plan and can therefore pay the most, it's going to EA, regardless what the devs themselves think about it, and especially regardless what the players think about it.

So the real question is who are the likeliest buyers ranked from subhuman villains (EA) to reasonably benign (passive portfolio investors)?


I meant a cashout event for me!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Jotunspor
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2016-12-09 18:06:12 UTC
Don Pera Saissore wrote:
take the money and run



Not quite. Get tired even of the complacency then actually call it quits. Although they were never working to begin with.
MAS0RAKSH
Doomheim
#49 - 2016-12-09 18:08:05 UTC
CCP giving some detail might be a good thing. Saying nothing gives the impression that whoever it is, they don't want a part of eve, but the whole enchilada for almost a bil. they're not a charity and will want a good return on investment which means milking the players for as much as we're willing to tolerate.

was gonna have a $1k custom build PC ordered today, but read that little bit of news and didn't. thanks CCP for declining to comment. hungry children in asia and mexico building cheap parts aren't going to eat tonight.
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#50 - 2016-12-09 18:10:06 UTC
MAS0RAKSH wrote:
CCP giving some detail might be a good thing. Saying nothing gives the impression that whoever it is, they don't want a part of eve, but the whole enchilada for almost a bil. they're not a charity and will want a good return on investment which means milking the players for as much as we're willing to tolerate.

was gonna have a $1k custom build PC ordered today, but read that little bit of news and didn't. thanks CCP for declining to comment. hungry children in asia and mexico building cheap parts aren't going to eat tonight.


No worries,
GadgetCorp has ya covered!

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Fridays are toooo long at this time of year.

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#51 - 2016-12-09 18:10:35 UTC
I would say its completely normal to expect EA taking over and killing companies to promote their own EA stuff. It happened before.

Hostile takovers happen.

I would not sell to EA for that reason, and I would not sell to party owning competing games.
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#52 - 2016-12-09 18:25:03 UTC
So much ridiculous fearmongering in this thread. The article states that the investors who got in on the ground floor of Valkyrie for $30m and now it's worth $300m. Guessing that the stock on Eve Online is at an all time high and they are looking to get investors in to do some serious development to Eve and that would be fun to speculate about. I don't think CCP is publicly traded so it's all pink slips (Trade Hub ISK doubling)

Obviously the owners and devs of CCP know how this childish community reacts at things! Go shoot a statue!

@lunettelulu7

Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#53 - 2016-12-09 18:29:00 UTC
$955 million is only 107,036,400,000 ISK.

CCP, I'd like to offer 110 billion ISK, please.
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#54 - 2016-12-09 18:34:38 UTC
Hello Games needs a real space game I hear...
They heard that EvE has that special Psssshh...

--Speculative Gadget

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."

Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#55 - 2016-12-09 18:39:01 UTC
Gauging markets and investing attitudes are a constant reality in investing, especially venture capital companies, and in the end it is about the money and its the product that makes that valuation. There are better and worse times to look to recoup investments and like most people should be doing in RL, aka looking for a better job even if they have no intention of leaving their current one so they can gauge their relative skill sets with HR departments in similar or dissimilar companies and businesses for "valuation" purposes.


You guys make me laugh all the time.Lol

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#56 - 2016-12-09 19:03:34 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
Wow that sucks :/


nobody cares, the owners (venture capitalists and investment funds) sell the whole company, ccp will still do the game.. it's like with stocks, the company goes on doing their thing no matter who owns the stock.. the company just gets traded from one investor to another.. happens all the time.. even if it's sold to electronic arts, ccp will go on doing the game like dice is doing their games, ccp will just end up having access to the ea assets, could lead to better server backup and such..


And it could lead to a whole lot of people who boycott EA leaving the game, because I'll be damned if they get a cent from me for anything ever again. EA don't make games, they make candy. It's got no nutrition to it whatsoever, it just tastes good and gives you enough energy to run around in circles for an hour before you pass out from sugar overload.


sad kids leaving the game because of big bad EA Cry grow up dude
Maximus Bullet
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2016-12-09 19:05:55 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
"CCP" haven't owned CCP for a long time. The company has been majority owned by private investors for years.


didnt they buy back all the shares a while ago?


That's usually a sign for selling a company or shoring up assets to make it look profitable.

Now can you send me 100 million isk since this game is truely dying.


Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#58 - 2016-12-09 19:07:08 UTC
In before the same people threatening to quit that always threaten to quit but are still here years later.

Oops...too late.

Mr Epeen Cool
mkint
#59 - 2016-12-09 19:07:54 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
Wow that sucks :/


nobody cares, the owners (venture capitalists and investment funds) sell the whole company, ccp will still do the game.. it's like with stocks, the company goes on doing their thing no matter who owns the stock.. the company just gets traded from one investor to another.. happens all the time.. even if it's sold to electronic arts, ccp will go on doing the game like dice is doing their games, ccp will just end up having access to the ea assets, could lead to better server backup and such..


And it could lead to a whole lot of people who boycott EA leaving the game, because I'll be damned if they get a cent from me for anything ever again. EA don't make games, they make candy. It's got no nutrition to it whatsoever, it just tastes good and gives you enough energy to run around in circles for an hour before you pass out from sugar overload.


sad kids leaving the game because of big bad EA Cry grow up dude

EA: where their only fans are through stockholm syndrome.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Wallstreet J0urnal
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#60 - 2016-12-09 19:10:05 UTC
Xayder wrote:
Well, less hope Chris Roberts dont buy it. Otherwise we will see what P2P really means


Lmao. This game would be dissolved if they purchased EVE and the devs would be let go or some will be added to Roberts game -- if that was the case.