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How much dps / tank / speed do you need to do anomalies in 0.0
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Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#1 - 2016-11-30 13:22:10 UTC
While I'm well aware that the more you have the better I am interested at minimum numbers one could consider reasonable for doing the anomalies in null. In particular the gurista ones.

The standard Vextor Navy Issue with heavy drones is approx 130 dps tank against kin/thermal at approx 1.2 km/s speed and has approx 600 dps heavy drone damage. Great. Is it possible to do anomalies with, say, 200 dps?

On one side I'm interested in some numbers for optimizing the exisitng fits on the other hand I'm one of the guys who has been involved in some capacity with the Alpha suitabe doctrines and what we do not have atm is fits suitable for Alphas for grinding isk in the anomalies. If you have a good ratting fit for null anoms for an alpha I would love to take a look at it. But even a ballpark numbers will do - more specifically please provide following if you can:

(1) The dps you have (if split weapons awesome would be per weapon type).
(2) The dps you can tank (against specific rats or just the tank number if you dont know the specific value)
(3) Your max velocity
(4) Your signature at max velocity
(5) Your tick size - preferably with the anomaly class you were able to do, for example, [Forsaken Hub, 20 mil tick] (the standard VNI).
(6) Additional comments if you feel they are in order, say, for example, noting if the dps number you had was unable to kill any specific NPC encountered in nullnull anomalies, like dire cruiser, or larger bounty BS, for example.

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napaCeN
just a tax corp
#2 - 2016-11-30 18:12:22 UTC
well i will tell you from my experience running all anomalies in null, but first to say if you are a alpha, don't really go for "drone" cruisers, it might seem easier to fly and do anomalies like the afk vni in havens or hubs, but that comes with good skills, and since alphas cant use heavy drones, that is not an option, medium drones on maxed alphas do rly shity dps, so my reccomendation depending on your race is going for a navy version of a gun ship, for example the exequror navy issue gets 550dps with meta4 blasters and speed tank, with alpha skills ofc, which will make you run anomalies much much faster then with drones, also one thing you might consider is belt ratting which is a lot easier and i recommend to any alpha to start with that to just get a hang on the combat, and it can bring some nice isk to, i am an older player and will make a little better ticks but example my fit with the navy exeq gets around 16/17mill ticks, but i use a vindicator for ratting which gets above 30m ticks, which in my opinnion is the best for sub cap ratting but for omega clones. For those exact numbers you want down there aka max velocity, sig at max velocity and so, i leave you that to simulate yourself with your skills in eve and see what you have, just remmember that you rarely will get hit by a battleship if you fly a cruiser or something smaller, so always take care of the frigs and cruisers, which only a couple spawns in higher anomalies and go shoot away the bsps :D speed tank for the win, dont worry about ressits while you are still alpha and doing anomalies, cause you can speed tank all, special tactics and fits come in DED complexes, so dont build on tank, build on dps and speed, to run them faster and get better ticks, easy money easy life.

good luck and fly safe o7
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2016-12-07 13:55:55 UTC
napaCeN wrote:
well i will tell you from my experience running all anomalies in null, but first to say if you are a alpha, don't really go for "drone" cruisers, it might seem easier to fly and do anomalies like the afk vni in havens or hubs, but that comes with good skills, and since alphas cant use heavy drones, that is not an option, medium drones on maxed alphas do rly shity dps, so my reccomendation depending on your race is going for a navy version of a gun ship, for example the exequror navy issue gets 550dps with meta4 blasters and speed tank, with alpha skills ofc, which will make you run anomalies much much faster then with drones, also one thing you might consider is belt ratting which is a lot easier and i recommend to any alpha to start with that to just get a hang on the combat, and it can bring some nice isk to, i am an older player and will make a little better ticks but example my fit with the navy exeq gets around 16/17mill ticks, but i use a vindicator for ratting which gets above 30m ticks, which in my opinnion is the best for sub cap ratting but for omega clones. For those exact numbers you want down there aka max velocity, sig at max velocity and so, i leave you that to simulate yourself with your skills in eve and see what you have, just remmember that you rarely will get hit by a battleship if you fly a cruiser or something smaller, so always take care of the frigs and cruisers, which only a couple spawns in higher anomalies and go shoot away the bsps :D speed tank for the win, dont worry about ressits while you are still alpha and doing anomalies, cause you can speed tank all, special tactics and fits come in DED complexes, so dont build on tank, build on dps and speed, to run them faster and get better ticks, easy money easy life.

good luck and fly safe o7


then would a 5/10 escalation be possible in an omen if i could get it fast enough to ignore the battleships?
i just got a blood raider neural something facility and it says online theres a few battleship.
i was told a few days ago 5/10s would be nigh impossible for alphas though.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2016-12-07 23:34:24 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
then would a 5/10 escalation be possible in an omen if i could get it fast enough to ignore the battleships?
i just got a blood raider neural something facility and it says online theres a few battleship.
i was told a few days ago 5/10s would be nigh impossible for alphas though.


You can manage the first two rooms though it will be slow. The third room will kill an Omen before it can kill the overseer. You won't be able to use speed to mitigate damage (and there's quite a bit of it) since you'll be triple webbed as soon as you land.
Tam Arai
Mi Pen Rai
#5 - 2016-12-08 17:02:42 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
then would a 5/10 escalation be possible in an omen if i could get it fast enough to ignore the battleships?
i just got a blood raider neural something facility and it says online theres a few battleship.
i was told a few days ago 5/10s would be nigh impossible for alphas though.


You can manage the first two rooms though it will be slow. The third room will kill an Omen before it can kill the overseer. You won't be able to use speed to mitigate damage (and there's quite a bit of it) since you'll be triple webbed as soon as you land.


same with angel 5/10

cruised through the first rooms with my sacrilege but got webbed in final room- i killed the stasis towers but then had to warp out as i was low armour and i couldnt get it back up in time. came back and killed everything

i dont fancy a t1 cruisers chances
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#6 - 2016-12-09 06:46:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrew Indy
Tam Arai wrote:

i dont fancy a t1 cruisers chances


I think it is possible but not with a single toon. I have seen people do the Sansha 5/10 (3 web towers at 40k + TDs) with like 3 Destroyers

Tam Arai wrote:

same with angel 5/10

cruised through the first rooms with my sacrilege but got webbed in final room- i killed the stasis towers but then had to warp out as i was low armour and i couldnt get it back up in time. came back and killed everything



Try a Pith large Shield booster and Large battery. As long you kill the webs + EM/Term ships ASAP its better as it has more gank and in all but EM/Therm way better tank too.

100MN AB is also pretty easy to fit.
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#7 - 2016-12-09 17:57:08 UTC
I have not gotten around to testing it, but it seems to me that Alpha should be able to handle lower end anomalies in sov null as well - just the progress would be rather slow in this regard so probably not worth the effort compared to, say, trying to get some FW LP as an Alpha in the frigate or something.

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