EVE General Discussion

If you are into marketing you probably noticed a huge number of buy orders for very small amounts that overlap each other constantly, making marketing an even more frustrating activity than it usually is, and 24 hours a day.

As soon as you update your order, someone buying 20 units of something worth less than 10k ISK updates his for 0.01 more, on pretty much every item you have buy orders for, even stuff that you usually had no competition.

That sudden increase in this sort of behavior can only be explained by bots. No one with a functioning brain would dedicate so much time to move so little ISK or make buy orders so small that they don't even sum to 1m total.

I want to know what CCP is doing about this, because apparently this genius idea of making this game free to play is already proving to be a bad one. They should at least restrict Alpha accounts from creating buy orders, because this is getting out of hand.

By all logic pervading the community, people will tell you -not on the official forums- that you're a baddie if you don't run the same bots with your leftover laptops

hi,
i just send a ticket today,
some programs like elinor reloaded are in use...
this would kill market game if there's nothing do...
too much of this 0.01isks change everytime you put your orders!
this really sucks

some are bots, others are players just like you.
i did for sometime the 0,01isk game: the profit is not bad.

get used to the 0,01 war or change trade hub.

Once, years ago, many traders started commenting that trading at Jita suddenly got much easier. CCP said they had banned some trading bots.

Ten trading bots.

It takes only a few of them to make life for the real traders far more difficult.

you know literally thousands of players trade products everyday so dont think the 0.01 isk game will disappear or get any better as people still do manually, find different products or move tradehub

The other issue at play here is that as you get older in Eve you learn better and better how to do different things, like markets and making alts, it is the same with pvp and pve really too. As you stay and learn you can dedicate more time into activities you enjoy and do so more efficiently and cheaply, this is simple human nature unfortunately, as will all the others that also adapt rather than die.


In Eve, no matter how friendly you are with someone, eventually you will have the Odepus Complex; you will try to kill your father (competition/others) and marry your mother ( gain resources/items). In short... Everyone will become competition... for everything.


The ultimate irony for you loving to think: What would an immortal human race do in this case? As we get closer and closer to the medical advances that could offer humanity immortality I love pondering such things in my spare time.

Much of IRL trading is automated through bots.

It is a source of unending bitter-sweet laughter for me, that IRL markets are less regulated than virtual ones.

Then the big bucks financial correspondents on major news channels/newspapers scratch their heads and struggle to spin it when they repeatedly fail to predict or understand the markets.

I dont think there is much chance to detect/identify market trading bots. Their behavior is very similar to OCD human traders.

In anycase, there are so many existing underlying irrational wierdnesses in EVEs market, especially in obscure buy orders which reduce regional averages, that the economy system is already rife with borks.

Jita, in and of itself, is an irrational result..Regional trade hubs should be the most equitable.

I'm not willing to say I know for sure that there are bots, but I do find it suspicious how, even on niche items, you can change the price on an item at any time in the day, and within a minute or so there's a slightly higher / lower bid.