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Kazz Radinovich
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-12-06 20:41:21 UTC
As I've mentioned in another post, I'm a returning player from a 4 year break.
I've been running some low level security missions in and around my home system. I've noticed that after I warp to the location, kill all the bad guys there are a few wrecks I can loot but there's tons of empty wrecks floating around.
Can I go back to dock, switch ships, then return to scoop up all the space junk floating around? What type of things, if any, do you get from doing that?
Is it worth it if it's only 1 or 2 jumps away?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2016-12-06 21:19:37 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Hello and welcome back to Eve.

You need to fit a Salvager I module on your ship, target the wreck and be within 2500m range and activate the Salvager module. After the module cycles you will automatically get some salvaged materials in your cargohold which can be sold in market or used to manufacture Rigs. Make sure the Salvage skill is trained at least to level 4.

Or you can launch Salvage Drones and set them to salvage all wrecks automatically. Again make sure you have them trained at least to level 4.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Guide_To_Salvaging


DMC

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Marcus Blackthorn
Royal Assassins Guild
Chained Reactions
#3 - 2016-12-06 21:30:42 UTC
Kazz Radinovich wrote:
As I've mentioned in another post, I'm a returning player from a 4 year break.
I've been running some low level security missions in and around my home system. I've noticed that after I warp to the location, kill all the bad guys there are a few wrecks I can loot but there's tons of empty wrecks floating around.
Can I go back to dock, switch ships, then return to scoop up all the space junk floating around? What type of things, if any, do you get from doing that?
Is it worth it if it's only 1 or 2 jumps away?


You can .... but it's really not worth it. You will make a lot more ISK and LP if you just go from one mission to another as fast as you can. I'd gotten to the point when I was running level 4's where I'd rarely loot from those as well, just wasn't work the ISK/Hour hit.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2016-12-06 21:43:13 UTC
Personally I think looting and salvaging makes up 1/3rd to 1/2 of the ISK gained from doing low level missions. When doing high level missions I usually loot and salvage all wrecks with a Noctis Salvage ship which clears the wrecks very quickly.

Now if there's not very many wrecks in the area then I just launch Salvage Drones and have them automatically salvage the wrecks while I collect the loot. Usually I'll reprocess the loot into minerals and use the salvage materials to manufacture Rigs to sell in market.

Tech 2 and Faction ships as well as Pirate Commander NPC wrecks in exploration sites will give Tech 2 Salvage materials which are worth more ISK than the salvage materials gained from regular wrecks.



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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#5 - 2016-12-06 23:49:26 UTC
The last time loot and salvage made that much of the income from missions was before reprocessing of modules was nerfed. Though it turns out that drone missions with battleships are now quite lucrative, but that will not last as the supply of Elite AI catches up. AE al L4 can be profitable but that comes entirely from the hardwiring from the silo in the third room. Silence the Informant L3 can drop science skill books from the roadhouse. But these are exceptions to the rule.

Mission blitzers rarely salvage, since the time cost of travelling back and forth destroys their ISK/h efficiency.

On the other hand pilots specialising in salvaging will make a decent income ~10–20M ISK/h if they have L4 missioners feeding them. Check with Pro Synergy about this career path.

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erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#6 - 2016-12-07 09:04:57 UTC
MTU defenetly helps salvaging. Get salvage drones to work and it is like AFK mining without CODE interference. Just bookmark all MTU ...

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Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#7 - 2016-12-07 10:03:56 UTC
Depending on your skills it'd be a lot more profitable to blitz but it's up to you what you find more enjoyable.

If full clear + looting and salvaging is something you really enjoy regardless of the lower isk/h then I highly suggest you look into getting marauders. Vargur is my personal favorite (and best all round in my personal opinion) but the Paladin is best in amarr space (and pretty sexy) and the Golem is another great all rounder, especially against guristas. The Galente one is a bit too specialized in my opinion. BB Rails and Blasters aren't the perfect missioning weapons.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#8 - 2016-12-08 00:17:06 UTC
erg cz wrote:
MTU defenetly helps salvaging. Get salvage drones to work and it is like AFK mining without CODE interference. Just bookmark all MTU ...


Never leave your MTU behind, nor be AFK or be 2500m away from your MTU. It's really a popular sport to hunt MTUs, because you dont risk your ship to CONCORD wrath and have a chance to kill some fools.
Rei Y
Minmatar Citizen 90483936 Corporation
#9 - 2016-12-08 01:04:52 UTC
once upon a time, I kept track for several day of ISK, LP and loot/salvage from missions. the breakdown was roughly a third for each (calculating LP profit at 2k per 1 LP). ISK income was from mission rewards and bounties, with bounties being the most of it.
I dont get people saying blitz it. unless you are using that 200mil/hr guide, where you blitz normal missions, with constantly turning down non-blitzable ones, and can do all burner missions, then you are probably getting only half of what you could get with bounties and loot/salvage. besides, there are quite a few missions where you have to kill everyone.
MTU and salvage-dedicated Noctis make it really easy and fast. you can clear out dozens of wrecks in several minutes. even a destroyer can do it, but you might have to come back to get all the loot.
Rei Y
Minmatar Citizen 90483936 Corporation
#10 - 2016-12-08 01:08:54 UTC
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
erg cz wrote:
MTU defenetly helps salvaging. Get salvage drones to work and it is like AFK mining without CODE interference. Just bookmark all MTU ...


Never leave your MTU behind, nor be AFK or be 2500m away from your MTU. It's really a popular sport to hunt MTUs, because you dont risk your ship to CONCORD wrath and have a chance to kill some fools.


that is what the d-scan is for.
and it is not that popular. there are a few dedicated MTU hunters/mission baiters, but the space is huge. add known ones to contacts and be careful when you see them in local, if ever.
Rei Y
Minmatar Citizen 90483936 Corporation
#11 - 2016-12-08 11:16:15 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Though it turns out that drone missions with battleships are now quite lucrative, but that will not last as the supply of Elite AI catches up.


what is up with the Elite Drone AI? I noticed they cost millions now...
and I think only Elite Drone Parasites drop them, not all drone BS
Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#12 - 2016-12-08 12:20:17 UTC
I think it's up to personal taste. Personally I like to clear the space up after my visit. I know I could probably make more money without it but I get a certain feeling of accomplishment salvaging all the wrecks I produced myself.
Eru GoEller
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-12-08 12:39:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Eru GoEller
Rei Y wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Though it turns out that drone missions with battleships are now quite lucrative, but that will not last as the supply of Elite AI catches up.


what is up with the Elite Drone AI? I noticed they cost millions now...
and I think only Elite Drone Parasites drop them, not all drone BS


This is what's been causing the stir up what regards the Elite Drone AI: https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprint/?typeid=41030
Scroll down and you will see the need of 50 pieces of that item.


As the market now is saturated the prices will/have dropped considerably the 30 last hours or so.

P.S: Come to think of it, could be wrong but wouldn't that mission pay out a bit more as reward now, since the completion times
are borked completly?
Rei Y
Minmatar Citizen 90483936 Corporation
#14 - 2016-12-10 11:00:03 UTC
Eru GoEller wrote:
Rei Y wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Though it turns out that drone missions with battleships are now quite lucrative, but that will not last as the supply of Elite AI catches up.


what is up with the Elite Drone AI? I noticed they cost millions now...
and I think only Elite Drone Parasites drop them, not all drone BS


This is what's been causing the stir up what regards the Elite Drone AI: https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprint/?typeid=41030
Scroll down and you will see the need of 50 pieces of that item.


As the market now is saturated the prices will/have dropped considerably the 30 last hours or so.

P.S: Come to think of it, could be wrong but wouldn't that mission pay out a bit more as reward now, since the completion times
are borked completly?


ah, the new excavator drones. got it.

I have no idea though what you mean in post scriptum.
Eru GoEller
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2016-12-10 17:56:58 UTC
Rei Y wrote:
Eru GoEller wrote:
Rei Y wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Though it turns out that drone missions with battleships are now quite lucrative, but that will not last as the supply of Elite AI catches up.


what is up with the Elite Drone AI? I noticed they cost millions now...
and I think only Elite Drone Parasites drop them, not all drone BS


This is what's been causing the stir up what regards the Elite Drone AI: https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprint/?typeid=41030
Scroll down and you will see the need of 50 pieces of that item.


As the market now is saturated the prices will/have dropped considerably the 30 last hours or so.

P.S: Come to think of it, could be wrong but wouldn't that mission pay out a bit more as reward now, since the completion times
are borked completly?


ah, the new excavator drones. got it.

I have no idea though what you mean in post scriptum.


Missions completion times are one of the parameters for the mission reward that's why "Material for wars" pay out is really bad.,
I myself had 8*2 of them going for a full week when i did the turn in. This should have some affect when the reward for the mission is calculated now. Though, it would probably just take a couple of blitzers and it's back to normal.
Voxinian
#16 - 2016-12-10 22:00:32 UTC
Marcus Blackthorn wrote:
Kazz Radinovich wrote:
As I've mentioned in another post, I'm a returning player from a 4 year break.
I've been running some low level security missions in and around my home system. I've noticed that after I warp to the location, kill all the bad guys there are a few wrecks I can loot but there's tons of empty wrecks floating around.
Can I go back to dock, switch ships, then return to scoop up all the space junk floating around? What type of things, if any, do you get from doing that?
Is it worth it if it's only 1 or 2 jumps away?


You can .... but it's really not worth it. You will make a lot more ISK and LP if you just go from one mission to another as fast as you can. I'd gotten to the point when I was running level 4's where I'd rarely loot from those as well, just wasn't work the ISK/Hour hit.



Battleship wrecks are still worth to loot (if you can loot them while clearing the mission).... and of course there is the mission with 'Zor' that occasionally drops nice faction mods.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#17 - 2016-12-11 02:21:03 UTC
every time I drop a MTU and watch the loot come in I'm just disappointed with the value the game estimates for it, also seems every time I wait for that one more wreck I get some metal scraps. With module tiericide it seems that loot value has dropped to probably the lowest level ever. Before you could get lucky and get that meta 4 damage control, web, small neut, damp or whatever else was selling for a few mil per unit, now getting 1m+ for a single item seems rare.

I haven't looked at salvage value although with citadels it sounds like it rebounded somewhat, but still nothing like it used to be. at 500k per melted cap, or 100k+ alloyed trit or armor plates, salvage was a gold mine. now half the time where I do have salvage drones I forget to even launch them.

Some missions I don't mind picking up loot/salvage when I'm running a mission. Dropping a MTU and salvage drones is easy. But to come back for it, just seems like a waste of time

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Nanoka Kohinata
Doomheim
#18 - 2016-12-11 03:45:14 UTC
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
erg cz wrote:
MTU defenetly helps salvaging. Get salvage drones to work and it is like AFK mining without CODE interference. Just bookmark all MTU ...


Never leave your MTU behind, nor be AFK or be 2500m away from your MTU. It's really a popular sport to hunt MTUs, because you dont risk your ship to CONCORD wrath and have a chance to kill some fools.

For the MTU 'expert': Those who hunt MTUs are PvP fit while most of the people using MTUs are not. True it makes them suspect and a target but most of them want that.

Standard tactic is this...they warp in and shoot at your MTU, but they are watching what you do. You, angry at this, target the suspect and fire. That makes you a valid target now. They abandon the MTU and come after you, blowing up your mission running fit ship...and maybe even your pod. They then loot your wreck, go back to the MTU, and kill/loot that too...and then warp to a safe spot or station to wait out 15 minute timer. They profit, you flow the tears.

For the OP: I only salvage my L4 (and some L3 missions) since I use the loot to reprocess for minerals and use that to make ammunition or modules to sell on the market. I refuse to mine so that is how I get what I need. The whole industry thing is not really needed or necessary but I do make a bit of profit on it. I even use the salvage material to make rigs too.

For L1 and L2 missions, don't bother...just ignore the wrecks and run missions.