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Sarus Khan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2016-12-02 21:44:36 UTC
Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:
Sarus Khan wrote:
First I would like to say I am thankful for the free option since money is tight these days and I can't afford game subs anymore.
I am all for the restricting free accounts to certain classes of ships, however locking them the one faction of ship is too much. When I started playing EVE (approximately 6+ years ago) I started as a Gallente character due to the fact that their faction's mentality in their description appealed to me the most, but I quickly realized I liked Caldari ships better. Now that I have come back to the game I find that I cannot pilot a single ship I own save for my mining frigate and my Gallente industrials. I literally have no skills for any Gallente ships bigger than a frigate, or maybe a destroyer. This essentially means I have to "start from scratch". This is a big "kick in the nuts" that has left me extremely disappointed in this new addition to the game.


Nonsense.

Embrace the chance to try something new.
Re-sub when you can.

Rather simple really.

--Gadget


I will try, my point was though I can't afford any subs right now so I am going to have to take the time to train for those Gallente ships. :)
Sarus Khan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2016-12-02 21:55:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarus Khan
Slow down and read more carefully next time Monkey. I wasn't just bitching, I brought attention to a valid problem with the model and I never once said I didn't like it because it isn't my 100% favorite thing, what I did say however in the first sentence is money is tight and I can't afford a sub or that would be the very first thing I would do. Eve is one of the best games I have ever played...for many many years. Oh and BTW, I happen to like Vanilla. Cool
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2016-12-02 21:58:33 UTC
Sarus Khan wrote:
Dark Lord Trump wrote:
Number of ships you could fly for free pre-Ascension: 0.
Number of ships you can fly for free post-Ascension: Greater than 0.

Want to have your old ships back? Pay up. Don't want to pay up? Stop complaining about free stuff.


Obviously someone who has never had to struggle a day in their life.

Whether or not I have to struggle is irrelevant. Eve used to cost money. Now you can do some things free, but have to pay if you want to do everything. You seem to want everything for free now, and that's nothing if not entitled. Pay up, deal with the restrictions, or leave.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Sarus Khan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2016-12-02 22:00:57 UTC
Ravas Geloris wrote:
Simply pay....


Yeah, um first sentence in my post my friend.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2016-12-02 22:04:16 UTC
Kojee wrote:
I swear to CHRIST I will come ******* suicide kill the next person that complains about not being able to use their favorite ******* **** for free. I don't care where they are, I will hunt them the **** down and gank their scrub ass.

I'm tempted to do it just to make you visit us in 0.0 Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#26 - 2016-12-02 22:14:20 UTC
Sarus Khan wrote:

I will try, my point was though I can't afford any subs right now so I am going to have to take the time to train for those Gallente ships. :)

Welcome to the point of EVE, patience and adaptation.
You appear to have forgotten these things in your time away, however hopefully you rediscover them.
Dwai Attic
TheAtticKo
#27 - 2016-12-02 22:42:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Dwai Attic
Kojee wrote:
I swear to CHRIST I will come ******* suicide kill the next person that complains about not being able to use their favorite ******* **** for free. I don't care where they are, I will hunt them the **** down and gank their scrub ass.


Hello, I've just come back to Eve. My favorite ship is federation navy comet. Unfortunately, when I created this character a long, long time ago I picked Caldari as my primary race.

Unfortunately, I cannot fly comets now. I consider that unfair. How was I supposed to know that I wouldn't be able to fly comets upon returing to the game many years later? I cannot foresee the future.

So, as of now, I'm appealing to CCP to remove this unfair disadvantage. Or at least I want to be allowed to have my race changed.

Thank you! Let's make this game great again.

Dwai

Dwai's eveboard
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
Flames of Exile
#28 - 2016-12-02 22:48:43 UTC
1: Sell the ships you can't use.
2: Buy skill extractors
3: Extract the locked skills
4: Inject the SP
5: Spend it on **** you can use


Alternately, just pay your sub so you can use the same **** you could use when you were paying your sub before. Literally nothing has changed aside from you having a free option if you want to embrace its limitations.
Hrist Harkonnen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2016-12-03 00:42:47 UTC
Sarus Khan wrote:
First I would like to say I am thankful for the free option since money is tight these days and I can't afford game subs anymore.
I am all for the restricting free accounts to certain classes of ships, however locking them the one faction of ship is too much. When I started playing EVE (approximately 6+ years ago) I started as a Gallente character due to the fact that their faction's mentality in their description appealed to me the most, but I quickly realized I liked Caldari ships better. Now that I have come back to the game I find that I cannot pilot a single ship I own save for my mining frigate and my Gallente industrials. I literally have no skills for any Gallente ships bigger than a frigate, or maybe a destroyer. This essentially means I have to "start from scratch". This has left me extremely disappointed with this new addition to the game.




Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!

Try EVE Online for FREE with 250.000 extra skill points here!
Maekchu
Doomheim
#30 - 2016-12-03 03:45:31 UTC
If money is so tight, that you can't afford a sub.

Then why the **** are you spending your time on a non-profit activity like EvE in the first place? Maybe, you should consider spending that energy on something that earns you IRL money, so you can actually survive.

If your children are starving and you are living out of a card-box, how important is it really that CCP increases the ships available for an Alpha?
Xodiac Primus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2016-12-03 03:52:21 UTC
Lucy Lollipops wrote:
Because previously char race was unlinked from ships while now playing a alpha is stricted linked to the race, I think it would be fair to let returning players a one time option to chose a different race from the one they previously decided.



I choose Nightelf Mohawk
Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy
Caldari State
#32 - 2016-12-03 06:08:40 UTC
Some things that alphas ask are reasonable some not.

To ask for a free candy when you can eat a big bite of it for free is unreasonable.

To ask for a one time choice for something you decided years ago about a totally changed game mechanic is a reasonable request.
Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#33 - 2016-12-03 06:11:27 UTC
I have this thing about people that cant afford $15 a month for a sub, but can afford electricity, a computer that can play eve, and internet service. Its $0.50 a day. I can find $0.50 a day in the freaking parking lot. When you buy something at the store such as groceries you could throw that change in a can/jar and i bet you would have enough in a month for a sub. I mean seriously its $0.50 a day. That wont even buy a soda. Hell it wont even buy a bottle of water.


But none the less it is a great time to be poor in Eve! All you have to do is spend some time learning how to make isk on an alpha. Build up your isk buy a plex off the market activate 30 days of omega and then do what you did before to get enough isk for a plex...but do it in less than 30 days and your good to go.
Arcelian
0nus
#34 - 2016-12-03 10:54:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Arcelian
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
I have this thing about people that cant afford $15 a month for a sub, but can afford electricity, a computer that can play eve, and internet service. Its $0.50 a day. I can find $0.50 a day in the freaking parking lot. When you buy something at the store such as groceries you could throw that change in a can/jar and i bet you would have enough in a month for a sub. I mean seriously its $0.50 a day. That wont even buy a soda. Hell it wont even buy a bottle of water.


But none the less it is a great time to be poor in Eve! All you have to do is spend some time learning how to make isk on an alpha. Build up your isk buy a plex off the market activate 30 days of omega and then do what you did before to get enough isk for a plex...but do it in less than 30 days and your good to go.


So much this. I understand when money is tight, I know how that is. But $15 a month tight, no I have never been that low on funds. I pay 6 month subs for 6 accounts, which is roughly $11 per month each so $66 total, and it's barely a blip on the financial radar. Because it's $2.2 per day. Most people spend far more than that on starbucks and eating out in a 30 day period.
Don Pera Saissore
#35 - 2016-12-03 11:20:12 UTC
You could create a special character resculpt that allows you to choose a race and give it out to every character created before the f2p switch.

That would be a fair deal considering the fact that we had no idea what we were doing when we created our chars.
Radamant Nemess
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
#36 - 2016-12-03 14:31:30 UTC
It goes something like this..
Free to play is aimed at new players, for older ones it is more like free to log in.
Got it?

i can fail at any speed you like
Aitu
Slap Fight Martial Artists
#37 - 2016-12-03 15:20:30 UTC
Kojee wrote:
I swear to CHRIST I will come ******* suicide kill the next person that complains about not being able to use their favorite ******* **** for free. I don't care where they are, I will hunt them the **** down and gank their scrub ass.


Hi guys

I can't use my favorite ship (triage Archon that can use fighters when not in triage) for free.
Please fix this.

Thanks
Toobo
Project Fruit House
#38 - 2016-12-03 15:33:17 UTC
In the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal, maybe a few days extra training on the old toon or on a new toon. But I think OP does have a point. It's fair enough that he cannot use T2 stuff that he could use, but being restricted to one faction is not something EVE has ever been about. Maybe allow a returning character to choose a faction? E.g., one time choice like character resculpt flag where CCP checks the pilot age or total SP and you'd be flagged to make a choice once when you log on. Hm

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!
Ravas Geloris
Doomheim
#39 - 2016-12-03 17:08:28 UTC
Some people simply don't get it that not paying and still allowed to play don't creates a right for them to complain they don't get as much as someone who paid.....

Such complains that even go a slightest bit in the direction of equalization of alpha and omega accounts are outrageous nothing more....

Alphas ARE in NO Way "equal" to omegas.....

If you want to be equal PAY......

Bottom line....
Tarek Rafiid
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2016-12-03 17:38:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarek Rafiid
In the real world, it's a case of you get what you pay for.

It's the same in Eve. You want to play for free? Your character's balls get chopped, til you pay up to get them back.

Besides, we already get the game for free, the expansions for free, and all the new content for free. CCP just asks for our sub money in return. That's a pretty damn good ROI for any game in the market. Normally, for most other MMOs, you need to either buy a ~$40 game, and pay each month on top, or buy a ~$60 game/character slot and play for free.