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Curse or Pilgrim for small gang

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Kira Kaliandra
Eagle and Lion Corporate Agents
#1 - 2016-12-02 17:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Kira Kaliandra
^ Title.

Also any suggestions on fits would be nice ...

I would prefer it to NOT be totally dependent on others so some solo potential isnt bad but whatever


Please no suggestions about other types of recon ships, i can only fly amarr ones

Browsed zkillboards and osmium a bit but havent come up with much, ill keep browsing tho and experimenting with various fits...
Kira Kaliandra
Eagle and Lion Corporate Agents
#2 - 2016-12-02 17:48:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Kira Kaliandra
This is a pilgrim zkillboard fit i modified to "fit" my skills

[Pilgrim, Pilgrim fit]

Damage Control II
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Reactive Armor Hardener

50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer
Medium Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II


Valkyrie II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5

35.1k ehp
274 dps
766 combined neut

Thoughts?
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-12-02 18:23:55 UTC
i'd opt for pilgrim (5 lows) over curse (4 lows).

then i'd use only one Drone Damage Amplifier II.
As i see it the pilgrim primary role is neut and eventually helping with damage application, not crazy dps.

then i'd add an AB over the warp disruptor, why?
- basically you are an armor reacon: armor is slow if not nanofitted, shield ships will kite you etc. they will dictate the range if they see you. in a brawl with a small gang you'll get in position fast with the MWD and then switch to the ab.

-In a "solo" situation your only option is to choose your opponent, getting in range cloaked and go all out. AB would mitigate some damage in this situation, close range speaking.

that considered you don't need a warp disruptor, but only a scram.

just saying.... i'm not an expert in pvp :)
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#4 - 2016-12-04 01:06:21 UTC
First decide where do you want to do your small gang roams (I assume it's roams and keep in mind your gang's comp). Most of the time Curse would be the better choice, reason is - you neut more and you neut further (can't be seen on d-scan too) vs Pilgrim that just have a cov. ops cloak and more low slots.

PS also most of the curses are shield fit.

Quote:
[Curse, 01001]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Tracking Disruptor II
Large Shield Extender II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
EM Ward Field II
Warp Disruptor II

Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II


Acolyte II x5
Hornet II x5
Infiltrator II x5
Vespa II x5


Quote:
[Curse, X2 LSE Cap Battery]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Reactor Control Unit II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Warp Disruptor II

Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer
Corpii C-Type Small Energy Nosferatu
Medium Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II


Acolyte II x5
Hornet II x5
Infiltrator II x5
Vespa II x5


Quote:
[Curse, X2 LSE]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Large Shield Extender II
Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Warp Disruptor II

Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II


Acolyte II x5
Hornet II x5
Infiltrator II x5
Vespa II x5