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Sarus Khan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-12-02 16:58:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarus Khan
UGH.
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2016-12-02 17:04:04 UTC
Number of ships you could fly for free pre-Ascension: 0.
Number of ships you can fly for free post-Ascension: Greater than 0.

Want to have your old ships back? Pay up. Don't want to pay up? Stop complaining about free stuff.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!

Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-12-02 17:06:52 UTC
Because previously char race was unlinked from ships while now playing a alpha is stricted linked to the race, I think it would be fair to let returning players a one time option to chose a different race from the one they previously decided.
Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
#4 - 2016-12-02 17:12:31 UTC
Lucy Lollipops wrote:
Because previously char race was unlinked from ships while now playing a alpha is stricted linked to the race, I think it would be fair to let returning players a one time option to chose a different race from the one they previously decided.


Dear lord.


I think I might be agreeing with Lucy Lollipops. Shocked
Kojee
Safety Set To Red
Train Wreck.
#5 - 2016-12-02 17:28:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Kojee
I swear to CHRIST I will come ******* suicide kill the next person that complains about not being able to use their favorite ******* **** for free. I don't care where they are, I will hunt them the **** down and gank their scrub ass.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#6 - 2016-12-02 17:35:38 UTC
what's the saying?

If you give a mouse a cookie...
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-12-02 17:47:59 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Sarus Khan wrote:
First I would like to say I am thankful for the free option since money is tight these days and I can't afford game subs anymore.
I am all for the restricting free accounts to certain classes of ships, however locking them the one faction of ship is too much. When I started playing EVE (approximately 6+ years ago) I started as a Gallente character due to the fact that their faction's mentality in their description appealed to me the most, but I quickly realized I liked Caldari ships better. Now that I have come back to the game I find that I cannot pilot a single ship I own save for my mining frigate and my Gallente industrials. I literally have no skills for any Gallente ships bigger than a frigate, or maybe a destroyer. This essentially means I have to "start from scratch". This is a big "kick in the nuts" that has left me extremely disappointed in this new addition to the game.


Or you could just fly Gallente ships, which are widely regarded as the best "alpha" choice anyway.

It's really hard to sympathize when you describe getting something for free as a "big kick in the nuts" because it's not 100% your favorite thing.

"Here's a free icecream cone!"
"Cool, is it chocolate?"
"No, vanilla"
"Oh, this... this is a real shot to the jimmies... I just can't... this is so unfair... HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GO ON LIKE THIS?!?"

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

mkint
#8 - 2016-12-02 18:00:43 UTC
If it weren't for the "I want everything for free, and make Mexico pay for it!" people on the forums lately, I might have a little more sympathy. My position was the racial locked thing is bad because it's impossible to have a perfectly balanced game, and the response given was "oh, well then, completely throw away your in game identity, your relationships, your corp history, your standings, any progress you may have made, and start a new character." But now, I'm kinda just wanting those people to leave.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Jotunspor
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-12-02 18:18:57 UTC
Sarus Khan wrote:
First I would like to say I am thankful for the free option since money is tight these days and I can't afford game subs anymore.
I am all for the restricting free accounts to certain classes of ships, however locking them the one faction of ship is too much. When I started playing EVE (approximately 6+ years ago) I started as a Gallente character due to the fact that their faction's mentality in their description appealed to me the most, but I quickly realized I liked Caldari ships better. Now that I have come back to the game I find that I cannot pilot a single ship I own save for my mining frigate and my Gallente industrials. I literally have no skills for any Gallente ships bigger than a frigate, or maybe a destroyer. This essentially means I have to "start from scratch". This is a big "kick in the nuts" that has left me extremely disappointed in this new addition to the game.



Well yeah, have you not heard? Ascension brought in the Joseph Stalin "clone state" to make the game "free". Oh wait... I meant ALPHA clone, sorry.
Zanar Skwigelf
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#10 - 2016-12-02 18:50:19 UTC
Just wait until Beta clones, which is an alpha clone that can use all 4 races. $3.99/mo
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#11 - 2016-12-02 18:56:21 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
what's the saying?

If you give a mouse a cookie...


...it'll poop chocolate chips.

User of 'Bumblefck's Luscious & Luminous Mustachio Wax'

Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#12 - 2016-12-02 19:07:08 UTC
Sarus Khan wrote:
First I would like to say I am thankful for the free option since money is tight these days and I can't afford game subs anymore.
I am all for the restricting free accounts to certain classes of ships, however locking them the one faction of ship is too much. When I started playing EVE (approximately 6+ years ago) I started as a Gallente character due to the fact that their faction's mentality in their description appealed to me the most, but I quickly realized I liked Caldari ships better. Now that I have come back to the game I find that I cannot pilot a single ship I own save for my mining frigate and my Gallente industrials. I literally have no skills for any Gallente ships bigger than a frigate, or maybe a destroyer. This essentially means I have to "start from scratch". This is a big "kick in the nuts" that has left me extremely disappointed in this new addition to the game.


Nonsense.

Embrace the chance to try something new.
Re-sub when you can.

Rather simple really.

--Gadget

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."

Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-12-02 19:07:32 UTC
Sarus Khan wrote:
First I would like to say I am thankful for the free option since money is tight these days and I can't afford game subs anymore.
I am all for the restricting free accounts to certain classes of ships, however locking them the one faction of ship is too much. When I started playing EVE (approximately 6+ years ago) I started as a Gallente character due to the fact that their faction's mentality in their description appealed to me the most, but I quickly realized I liked Caldari ships better. Now that I have come back to the game I find that I cannot pilot a single ship I own save for my mining frigate and my Gallente industrials. I literally have no skills for any Gallente ships bigger than a frigate, or maybe a destroyer. This essentially means I have to "start from scratch". This is a big "kick in the nuts" that has left me extremely disappointed in this new addition to the game.


Wow. So the choice you made a couple years ago, has lasting consequences even to this day, huh.

Eve is deep.
Ravas Geloris
Doomheim
#14 - 2016-12-02 19:52:47 UTC
Simply pay....
Wanda Fayne
#15 - 2016-12-02 20:32:50 UTC
Galaxy Duck wrote:
Lucy Lollipops wrote:
Because previously char race was unlinked from ships while now playing a alpha is stricted linked to the race, I think it would be fair to let returning players a one time option to chose a different race from the one they previously decided.


Dear lord.


I think I might be agreeing with Lucy Lollipops. Shocked


Sucker!Blink

"your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic" -Lan Wang-

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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#16 - 2016-12-02 20:35:09 UTC
Luckily some of your Caldari skills will go nicely since they both share blaster weapon technology. Chin up fellow Capsuleer Smile

@lunettelulu7

Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#17 - 2016-12-02 21:02:26 UTC
In the time spent complaining about it, you could train the skills - from starter skills to cruiser level 3 shouldn't take more than 2 days for an Alpha. Both Caldari and Gallente use hybrid weapons so that shouldn't be an issue.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#18 - 2016-12-02 21:21:17 UTC
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2016-12-02 21:29:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Eli Stan
Sarus Khan wrote:
First I would like to say I am thankful for the free option since money is tight these days and I can't afford game subs anymore.
I am all for the restricting free accounts to certain classes of ships, however locking them the one faction of ship is too much. When I started playing EVE (approximately 6+ years ago) I started as a Gallente character due to the fact that their faction's mentality in their description appealed to me the most, but I quickly realized I liked Caldari ships better. Now that I have come back to the game I find that I cannot pilot a single ship I own save for my mining frigate and my Gallente industrials. I literally have no skills for any Gallente ships bigger than a frigate, or maybe a destroyer. This essentially means I have to "start from scratch". This is a big "kick in the nuts" that has left me extremely disappointed in this new addition to the game.
Just reroll a new Caldari character. Or two. Or ten. Or just train the skills on your current character. It's free, after all, and not an especially long train, just a few months. Then you can play for free while flying your Caracal as much as you wish. (But not your Cerb nor Raven nor Golem, I hope you realize.)
Sarus Khan
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2016-12-02 21:39:31 UTC
Dark Lord Trump wrote:
Number of ships you could fly for free pre-Ascension: 0.
Number of ships you can fly for free post-Ascension: Greater than 0.

Want to have your old ships back? Pay up. Don't want to pay up? Stop complaining about free stuff.


Obviously someone who has never had to struggle a day in their life.
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