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ECM Sensor Strength - is the info text broken ?
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Dimitrios Bekas
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2016-12-01 15:48:53 UTC
When you click on a Basilisk, a 100% Caldari Logi Ship...

http://puu.sh/sAF3H/5483e4340e.png

...with 22 Points on Caldari Sensor Strenght, it would mean, according to the popup Text...USE everything else but not Caldari Jams.

Or am i just so damn bad with my english :D

Maybe this popup text is realllyyy reallllyy old and no one noticed the missinformation ?
Vakr Onzo
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-12-01 15:53:15 UTC
Are you asking about other racial jammers? They only work against the racial sensor type. You can't use the one that jam Radar against a ship that doesn't use radar for its sensor.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-12-01 15:57:21 UTC
Dimitrios Bekas wrote:
Or am i just so damn bad with my english :D
<-- this :)

it correctly states that a higher sensor strength makes YOU more difficult to BE JAMMED by other nasty people

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Dimitrios Bekas
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2016-12-01 15:57:45 UTC
I don´t know why you ask me what i asked for :)

I wrote it.

And you can use every jammer on every ship, the chance is just reduced if you don´t use the racial jam.-->Multispectral.
Dimitrios Bekas
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2016-12-01 15:58:58 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Dimitrios Bekas wrote:
Or am i just so damn bad with my english :D
<-- this :)

it correctly states that a higher sensor strength makes YOU more difficult to BE JAMMED by other nasty people


Well then why is everybody using Caldari Jams against Basilisk :) when it has 22Points and zero on the other 3 Racial Sensor Strenghts ?
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-12-01 16:04:00 UTC
Dimitrios Bekas wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Dimitrios Bekas wrote:
Or am i just so damn bad with my english :D
<-- this :)

it correctly states that a higher sensor strength makes YOU more difficult to BE JAMMED by other nasty people


Well then why is everybody using Caldari Jams against Basilisk :) when it has 22Points and zero on the other 3 Racial Sensor Strenghts ?

I see what you mean now, but it's not really zero on the others, it's more like 'not applicable' on the others since caldari sensors are gravi.

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Dimitrios Bekas
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2016-12-01 16:15:58 UTC
Well you can use the others jams but the chance gets so reduced (not zero) but so highly reduced that its still way better to use the racial jam although the ship has higher sensor strength.

Again, YOU CAN use all jammers on a ship...they cycle, they activate and they have a very reduced chance to jam.

*closed and thanks for replies
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-12-01 16:29:23 UTC
You're confusing sensor strength (your 'defense') with jam strength (your 'attack').

Let's say you want to jam that Basi with an unbonused T2 ladar jammer, that has:

. Gravi jam strength 1.2
. Ladar jam strength 3.6
. Mag jam strength 1.2
. Radar jam strength 1.2

Since the Basi has Gravi sensors, only the Gravi jam strength matters. In this case it's 1.2 because your Ladar jammer isn't optimized for Gravi.


It's not that the Ladar ECM just jams Ladar and your Basi resists more! The Ladar ECM when applied to a Basi acts exactly like a Gravi ECM would, it's just less strong.

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Jennifer Starblaze
Fury Transport
#9 - 2016-12-01 16:35:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jennifer Starblaze
Yes, there is a slight chance that you get jams with all jammers, but that has nothing to do with the ships having 0 sensor strength on 3 of the 4 sensor types, it is because all jammers have a jam strength above 0 for all sensor types, but they only get a high value on one of them (except multis which are equally bad for everything).

For example:

Spatial Destabilizer II:

Gravi: 3.6
Lader: 1.2
Radar: 1.2
Magneto... : 1.2

Ships themselves have only 1 type, the other 3 do not exist on the ship -> can´t jam sensors that do not exist.

edit: awww.. too slow
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2016-12-01 16:38:03 UTC
Jennifer Starblaze wrote:
edit: awww.. too slow
Yes, but your explanation is better imo.

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Jennifer Starblaze
Fury Transport
#11 - 2016-12-01 16:39:54 UTC
I´d say both versions should work just fine to clear up that little misunderstanding :)