Ships & Modules

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So if you guys were to rebalance medium autocannons, what would you change about them?

Do you think rebalancing the medium AC's (and nerfing RLML) will make the stabber are more "respectable" T1 cruiser in the current meta? Or would the stabber still need a little extra push to bring it up to par with the other T1 attack cruisers? (thorax, caracal, omen)

One thing I've noticed, is that CCP in the past has tried to buff the stabber by giving it a more diversified platform for damage. Most recently they gave it a full flight of light drones. And I think before that, they buffed it by giving it an extra highslot, which allows it to use 2x launchers in addition to it's 4x turrets. So it seems that their rebalancing efforts have been to diversify the stabbers methods of dishing out damage, which is pretty smart in my opinion.


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Has anybody heard what CCP is planning to do to rebalance medium autocannons?

After the reblance, will the stabber be on the same playing field as the other attack cruisers?

Also... is the stabber really THAT bad? I saw this video on reddit called "The Zkill Guide To The Stabber" and it literally says the stabber is the laughing stock of the cruisers. What do you think?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5f5t9t/the_zkill_guide_to_the_stabber/

That's not true. One month ago he released a vid on the typhoon ( https://youtu.be/ggRNBtgKEfU ) and says the following: "most ships get the choice between good tracking, good alpha, good rate of fire, good DPS, or good drone bay, but the typhoon gets all of these things. It is also the fastest battleship in the game." So I call bullshit on your claim that all ships in Eve are portrayed as bad in his videos. Not only does the skill guide say that the stabber sucks, but so do many other people. I just want to know if the stabber truly does suck, and there is good reason to raise this question when we now have alpha clones and as far as I know, stabbers haven't been touched in years.

Seriously check out the video. The biggest criticism that he has is actually not for the typhoon, but for CCP's inability to balance ships. He jokingly says they probably designed the leaning tower of Pisa.

Not only does his channel insinuate that the stabber sucks, but so do others. Like this one: https://youtu.be/kkyUL3oIY_A suitonia says that "the stabber has very high base speed, at the expense of almost everything else. I personally think that the stabber is not very competitive right now"

I agree with that, but we're not talking about the vagabond. We're talking about the stabber, and medium autocannons.

So lore wise that ship looks okay to me.

Nooo, don't nerf rapid lights.

If they didn't over-nerf heavy missiles, they would still be assault launchers.

Stabber is a good bait ship actually, better with cyno becuase it can't hold tank for long time for gang to warp in from to far away, so ideally it's cyno fit so the gang can jump in to cyno.

The reason why it works is because 1) people think it's sh1t (which is probably true) 2) it has 'reputation' for being a kitey ship, so people are happy to approach it closer than they should because they are concerned you will burn away and escape

Basically, you bait with Stabber by pretending to run away, in which case eager people will try to chase you down before you gain your top speed (which, to be fair, is pretty good). That's when you do a full stop/crazy ivan to land a scram+web and let your mates jump in.

People are weary of scram fit tackle Vaga, but less so about a Stabber. I'm not saying it's the best ship for the job, but it does work in some cases precisely because it's expected to be sh1t and squishy and kitey.

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So if you guys were to rebalance medium autocannons, what would you change about them?

Do you think rebalancing the medium AC's (and nerfing RLML) will make the stabber are more "respectable" T1 cruiser in the current meta? Or would the stabber still need a little extra push to bring it up to par with the other T1 attack cruisers? (thorax, caracal, omen)

One thing I've noticed, is that CCP in the past has tried to buff the stabber by giving it a more diversified platform for damage. Most recently they gave it a full flight of light drones. And I think before that, they buffed it by giving it an extra highslot, which allows it to use 2x launchers in addition to it's 4x turrets. So it seems that their rebalancing efforts have been to diversify the stabbers methods of dishing out damage, which is pretty smart in my opinion.

CCP knowingly nerfed tracking enhancers in an attempt to bring ACs inline with blasters even though blasters got more tracking, more damage and better reload time during the revamp.