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Rory Orlenard
Eve Pilots Revolutionary Army
#1 - 2012-01-19 06:31:17 UTC
As a highsec type I open EN24 every day and check for the nullsec videos - but that wasn't enough. I have recorded some video and uploaded it to an image hosting site and then watched it. Good god it was bad., had to delete it.

I am wondering if anyone has tips on balancing setting the fps recording vs file size, setting my ingame resolution ( will lesser resoluions make smaller file sizes ? ) or any other tips ?

BTW i can and will reinvent the wheel to get good video, just hoping for tips.

Also i plan to cloak a rookie ship, check evemap for hotspots in null and attempt to video some battles. If i can video anyones fight i'd like too.
Yakumo Smith
No End To Infinity
#2 - 2012-01-19 07:22:53 UTC
Check the My Eve forum section, it has lots of tips on how to create video's etc.

A lot of video's are done with high resolutions, but are sped up as some fights can drag on a little. Using a good encoder can shrink file sizes down dramatically.

Re cloaking and watching a fight...this won't work as well as you are imagining. A lot of the enjoyment in video's is seeing the piloting of the person fighting, seeing their shield and armour fluctuate, seeing the targets shield and armour fluctuate, seeing how close a fight is. You won't get that info if you are cloaked watching and if the fight moves out of range of you, you'll easily miss a lot of the action.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#3 - 2012-01-19 19:47:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrus Blackshell
So far as recording file size, Fraps and other desktop recorders will record video uncompressed. This means that, at 1080p, 1 minute of video is roughly 1.5 GB of your hard drive. Get a big hard drive. Then, before uploading the video, process and compress it using some manner of video editing software to make it be a manageable size.

I'm looking into making some combat vids myself, but it's not simple at all.

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Rory Orlenard
Eve Pilots Revolutionary Army
#4 - 2012-01-20 18:46:07 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
So far as recording file size, Fraps and other desktop recorders will record video uncompressed. This means that, at 1080p, 1 minute of video is roughly 1.5 GB of your hard drive. Get a big hard drive. Then, before uploading the video, process and compress it using some manner of video editing software to make it be a manageable size.

I'm looking into making some combat vids myself, but it's not simple at all.


Perhaps this will help, i found a freeware program that records video and sound and at 90% compression quality 5 minutes of video is 1.4 GB. Then using the Windows Live Movie Maker program to save the 5 minute video as a movie the file size drops to 57 MB - a huge difference. However the video quality suffers, the Overview text that was clear in the original video becomes unreadable in the movie.

I'll try other compression qualities..maybe 80% and 100%, see how that works. The freeware video recording program i found is called SMRecord and is rated high by users. As someone who knows very little i found it to be easy to use and figure out.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#5 - 2012-01-20 18:49:49 UTC
Rory Orlenard wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
So far as recording file size, Fraps and other desktop recorders will record video uncompressed. This means that, at 1080p, 1 minute of video is roughly 1.5 GB of your hard drive. Get a big hard drive. Then, before uploading the video, process and compress it using some manner of video editing software to make it be a manageable size.

I'm looking into making some combat vids myself, but it's not simple at all.


Perhaps this will help, i found a freeware program that records video and sound and at 90% compression quality 5 minutes of video is 1.4 GB. Then using the Windows Live Movie Maker program to save the 5 minute video as a movie the file size drops to 57 MB - a huge difference. However the video quality suffers, the Overview text that was clear in the original video becomes unreadable in the movie.

I'll try other compression qualities..maybe 80% and 100%, see how that works. The freeware video recording program i found is called SMRecord and is rated high by users. As someone who knows very little i found it to be easy to use and figure out.


I am actually just using Fraps to capture the video, and sticking it into Lightworks for processing. My only impediment right now is not knowing how the heck Lightworks works.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#6 - 2012-01-20 18:56:05 UTC
Rory Orlenard wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
So far as recording file size, Fraps and other desktop recorders will record video uncompressed. This means that, at 1080p, 1 minute of video is roughly 1.5 GB of your hard drive. Get a big hard drive. Then, before uploading the video, process and compress it using some manner of video editing software to make it be a manageable size.

I'm looking into making some combat vids myself, but it's not simple at all.


Perhaps this will help, i found a freeware program that records video and sound and at 90% compression quality 5 minutes of video is 1.4 GB. Then using the Windows Live Movie Maker program to save the 5 minute video as a movie the file size drops to 57 MB - a huge difference. However the video quality suffers, the Overview text that was clear in the original video becomes unreadable in the movie.

I'll try other compression qualities..maybe 80% and 100%, see how that works. The freeware video recording program i found is called SMRecord and is rated high by users. As someone who knows very little i found it to be easy to use and figure out.



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Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#7 - 2012-01-20 19:59:38 UTC
Rory Orlenard wrote:
As a highsec type I open EN24 every day and check for the nullsec videos - but that wasn't enough. I have recorded some video and uploaded it to an image hosting site and then watched it. Good god it was bad., had to delete it.

I am wondering if anyone has tips on balancing setting the fps recording vs file size, setting my ingame resolution ( will lesser resoluions make smaller file sizes ? ) or any other tips ?

BTW i can and will reinvent the wheel to get good video, just hoping for tips.

Also i plan to cloak a rookie ship, check evemap for hotspots in null and attempt to video some battles. If i can video anyones fight i'd like too.


I've done quite a bit on a hobbyist level, using Pinnacle Studio and Windows Movie Maker.

Lesser resolutions don't neccessarily lower the file size; the same amount of data is being processed, but it's just a smaller viewing area. Most videos are played back at a standard 30 FPS; you can reduce the file size by recording at a lower FPS setting, but in exchange, you might have to sacrifice visual quality.

Compression is important to consider, as well, because the various encoding formats (MPEG vs. DivX vs. wmv) will all result in different file sizes and quality. Generally, DVD will produce good visual fidelity, but the file size tends to be quite large. DivX is relatively reasonable size and quality, while WMV and MPEG are the standard for most web-published videos because of their smaller file size and decent quality.

As a rule, the higher-quality the video, the larger the file size, because it's packing that much more visual data.

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