EVE General Discussion

Hi everyone!

I´m playing EVE online for 5 days, and I like it!

I´d like to write about my experience of those first five days. In the beginning, it was pretty hard to navigate all those menus and to find out how to fir a weapon or other pieces of equipment into my ship. But after a while i got used to it. The tutorial was doing an ok job explaining what to do and in giving a first glimpse into the word of EVE online.

Also, I tried to read tutorials and outside sources in order to understand all those options.

On my second day, I started mining Veldspar in 0.8 - 1.0 and made ONE million ISK. I was really proud but I read that people in the low sec or null sec are making much more. So, I did some research and thought about joining a Corporation.


On my 3rd day I joined the Pandemic Horde.
They are doing a lot for new players and are giving them completely fitted ships and are also a great source of knowledge for their new members. I knew that there are some people who were going to kill me because I am in the "wrong" corporation, but I thought it´s going to be ok.

Well, I lost 7 ships in the last 2 days. Two of them to the "enemy", and 5 of them to random people ("neutrals") who just show up at presumably safe places where other newbies are mining, ratting and salvaging in order to save up some money for their first cruisers.

I get that being in a corporation who is at war means battles and comes with the risk of losing ships. But, why are there some people who constantly try to kill new players for whom the loss of a 5 million ship (fully fitted) means a lot?

because you are at war and are making yourself an easy target. the people out looking for kills aren't going to stop and check to see how old you are before attacking, they will act first and question later if at all. its nothing personal.

now if you have lost that many ships in such a short period of time you shouldn't be asking "why are they doing this to me" but rather "what am I doing thats allowing this to happen so often"

some very simple and basic precautions can VASTLY increase your survivability. keep an eye on local, hammer your d-scan. maybe find a quieter area to operate out of. if you don't know how to do the above things, take advantage of the fact that you are in a corporation and ask.

This is how EVE works. Assume everyone who isn't an ally to your corp wants to murder you. The reality is that most people don't want to murder you bad enough to chase you down through ten systems or probe you out if you warp to a safe, but most people will happily blow up targets of opportunity if they happen to come across them.

Joining horde as you did has its plusses and minuses. A big newbie organization backed up by a large null sov entity is going to make it less painful for you to lose ships, however, joining such an organization also adds you to the **** list of many of your neighbors who may have otherwise left you alone, and has put you in an area of space where people regularly roam around in semi-large fleets looking for people to kill because they're bored and have ships to burn.

In the end is isn't your attackers that need to amend their behavior. You don't get to control them, and what they're doing is an intended and encouraged part of playing EVE. In stead think about what you could do differently. Ask whoever is in charge of teaching you not to suck at the game about things like local, dscan, and safe spot creating for starters.

Or, basically, get good.

vets , as a rule , will try to kill pretty much anything they think they have a shot at killing.

Because the community of this game is a cancer. They are always complaining that eve does not have new players but when a new player appears they go there and kill him. And that makes some of the new players drop the game quickly. Vets should think twice before killing an initiate. To keep the game alive it is more important to help a novice player instead of having fun killing him.

Why? I stuck with Eve because I got killed, asked around why it happened and started shooting at players myself. Had they spared me, I probably would have quit out of boredom and aimlessness. Besides, how are we supposed to know whether a player is new? Should we waste precious seconds checking a characters age, killboard history, corp history and so on before opening fire each time? When do you think "peacetime" is over?

No, treating newbies differently in PvP is neither practical, nor necessary. It wouldn't do them any favors either, but just make their first loss hurt all the more.

We don't do full background checks on our targets. Not blue = kill.

Well done on making the jump to null-sec so quickly. Quite frankly that is where the real action is.

It is not unusual in the first few weeks/months of playing EvE that you will get your ship blown up.

I lost 5 or so ships in my first month & that was in hi-sec.

There is some good advice for you above & don't be reluctant to ask your corp/alliance mates for advice also.

Most of all analyse what happened each time you were killed & try & implement strategies to minimise your risk. You can never be completely safe but with some forethought & planning you really should be able to avoid most losses.

I would like see new players (especially Alphas) given some protection from random kills, because I feel that we will lose too may of them without it.