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Why does the third alt in a OMEGA account can be trained like an Alpha

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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#81 - 2016-11-22 10:58:18 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
MC Loviing wrote:
Why does the third alt in a OMEGA account can be trained like an Alpha account???

We are already paying the premium account why force me to have a second free account. im already paying 1 multicharacter training.

Ive just want him to be training something. Even if its slow and not all the skills.... better than nothing


this, I will let run out my sub just to train those 2 other characters on my account up when in Alpha mode.. it's kind of stupid that I can not have those trained as Alpha right away


wut? o.O

Just Add Water

Rayit
Akadeimia Keipouron SVK
Apocalypse Now.
#82 - 2016-11-22 12:02:59 UTC
Nat Silverguard wrote:
wut? o.O


He wants to use his second character but doesn't want to be paying to train him to Alpha level. He's going to cancel his payment. Train the character until he's a maxed out Alpha and then resubscribe.

Easier to just scream "entitled" at him than actually understand the 'problem'.
Keno Skir
#83 - 2016-11-22 12:13:35 UTC
Rayit wrote:
Nat Silverguard wrote:
wut? o.O


He wants to use his second character but doesn't want to be paying to train him to Alpha level. He's going to cancel his payment. Train the character until he's a maxed out Alpha and then resubscribe.

Easier to just scream "entitled" at him than actually understand the 'problem'.


Except he is entitled and there is no problem. Canceling his sub to train a second character to Alpha is stupid.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#84 - 2016-11-22 12:13:41 UTC
Rayit wrote:
Nat Silverguard wrote:
wut? o.O


He wants to use his second character but doesn't want to be paying to train him to Alpha level. He's going to cancel his payment. Train the character until he's a maxed out Alpha and then resubscribe.

Easier to just scream "entitled" at him than actually understand the 'problem'.


well dude, i understood his 'problem', my issue was, why is it a 'problem'?

if the current SP of his 2nd character is less than the Alpha clone, cause probably an old 1, then delete that 2nd character and make a new one, tada, SP level same as Alpha clone. What?

or

use an MCT

problem solved, easy.

Just Add Water

Salvos Rhoska
#85 - 2016-11-22 12:47:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
I recommend he creates an Alpha account on a Recruit A Friend code from his main account, and subs it.

That way he can use the reward Time/PLEX to multitrain his 3rd character on the main account.

As well as flying both his main and secondary account simultaneously as Omega.

His secondary Omega account will also get a month of training +250kSP, which is a good basis for starting the framework of a 2nd account.

CCP has not updated all their FAQS on Recruit a Friend, and i cba to research for you, but be careful you pay for the Alphas upgrade to Omega with the correct payment forms, or it might void the offer.

So for one Sub (possibly PLEX or timecodes, check yourself), you get a free Sub/PLEX + 250K SP + ability to tly two Omegas simultaneously.
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#86 - 2016-11-22 14:00:08 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:


Except he is entitled and there is no problem. Canceling his sub to train a second character to Alpha is stupid.


If he's actually not playing the Omega currently... or has multiple accounts and can "afford" for this to lapse, it's actually not that horrid of an idea, I guess.

You save some cash, but pay with time (logging in to set new 24 hr queue, and slower training time.)

Not something I would do personally, but there could be a niche, but rational, reason to do so.

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sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#87 - 2016-11-22 19:44:18 UTC  |  Edited by: sero Hita
Salvos Rhoska wrote:


From mine, when you pay for the account, it is no longer free.
Hence access to the server is not free for an Omega. It is paid.
And since an Omega cannot fly an Alpha simultaneously, they lose that free access element.

But the omegas can still have an alpha account and play it like the other alphas for free. That they can't log in their omega at the same time does not mean it is not free for an omega (You will pay nothing for the alpha clone). I don't understand why you want to couple having an omega clone online at the same time to if it is free or not? You can still find something to do with an alpha that would warrant logging off your omega account and use the extra character slots for free instead of paying for a second account. Hence you did not loose acces to that free element

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#88 - 2016-11-22 20:31:21 UTC
Rayit wrote:
I think the request makes sense and would be a nice addition. Give us the ability to designate our Omega characters as Alpha if we choose to. Save us from needing separate Alpha accounts and allow us to do some basic training on an alt before paying for dual character training.


You do understand Alpha clones are heavily restricted in what skills they can train and how much? Chances are if you want to train one of your Omega characters, making it an Alpha will change nothing besides not allowing you to use non-Alpha skills.

Most Alpha-skills are so basic you'd need a totally new character to profit from Alpha-training. And then you can just make a new account anyway, problem solved.
Faxtarious
Kai-Zen inc.
#89 - 2016-11-22 23:31:55 UTC
jesus...


We clearly see who still has Logic injected but untrained in these forums