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Casandra Laur
Bleu Femme Felis
#1 - 2016-11-21 13:38:15 UTC
Alpha here, and loving the game.

I did find out that I am really limited on the ships that I can use, and that is ok for now.

I think the largest ship I can use for missions is a Cruiser. But I have seen different things on a ship called the Gnosis.

I think I will be able to eventually use this ship. It is a "special edition" ship, and it doesn't show up in my ship tree.

Does anyone know if this is true or a glitz?

thanks

Cassy
Skittles Turisas
Hellsing Arms Weapon Industrials
#2 - 2016-11-21 13:49:19 UTC
Yes sir, the Gnosis can be flown on Alpha accounts it's not restricted.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2016-11-21 14:11:46 UTC
yes you can use it, hold out till tomorrow before picking one up though.
their price is about to tank something fierce.

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Casandra Laur
Bleu Femme Felis
#4 - 2016-11-21 19:53:05 UTC
As I understand, us Alphas will not be receiving these new ships. Free accounts don't get them. (It's going to take a lot of missions to buy them, but by then will I really need one?)

Just as well, we probably wouldn't be able to fit them good enough to be effective. These SoCT ships have very good drone bays, with bonuses for the drones. Alphas are very limited in the drone department, so it may not help us very much.


But hey, for some reason we can use smart bombs.

Cassy
Evelyn Stone
Bleu Femme Felis
#5 - 2016-11-21 20:04:02 UTC
Well this is just dandy. I just got a Gnosis, after reading the first post.

In my Moa, so far, I can do about 221dps, and I don't expect it to go very much higher. Piece of cake for L2s, but L3s I don't think so. That's why I got the Gnosis, but with a limit on skills, especially drones, doing L3s may be difficult. I'm at about 300 dps in the Gnosis at this time, and that's ok since I can't run L3s now anyway.

Limited to T1 drones, with no support skills for them, they will not be very effective. I know, I know, what do you want for free. LOL

Same for the new destroyer. If it relies on drones for most of it's dps, it may not be that good for PVE either.

-Eva
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#6 - 2016-11-21 21:33:13 UTC
Gnosis is a jack of all trades, master of none but all bonuses are role bonuses so you get the equivalent of Battlecruiser 5 out of the box. Excellent ship for level 3 missions.

Alpha clones are not restricted to T1. You can't use a lot of T2 gear but hull upgrades 4 unlocks DCU2 and that is an awesome module for the Gnosis (and most anything else Alphas can fly). Weapon upgrades 4 will let you fit T2 weapon upgrades - Drone Damage Amp, Ballistic Control, Magnetic field Stabiliser, etc...

You can also use faction and integrated drones - Integrated Hobgoblins are selling for 550K in Jita right now - not cheap but not outrageous. You can use faction ammunition although you shouldn't need it for L2 missions. When your budget permits you can fit faction or deadspace weapons and modules. The bling isn't necessary and will make you a more attractive gank target but it's there if you want it.

Gnosis stats for those who don't have them: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Gnosis
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#7 - 2016-11-22 08:21:36 UTC
Evelyn Stone wrote:

Same for the new destroyer. If it relies on drones for most of it's dps, it may not be that good for PVE either.

-Eva


Not really, the Gnosis can happily get 500+ DPS with max Alpha skills. Hell a blaster Gnosis can get over 600 with T2 damage mods

This gets 633 DPS and skill has loads of space for normal fittings. Add faction bling and you are not far off 700 DPS.
[Gnosis, PVE]

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

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William WalterWordswort
Static Complexes Inc.
#8 - 2016-11-22 08:30:17 UTC
gallente alpha can get over 550 dps out of gnosis (meta fit with faction drones&ammo) that's about the same as vexor but with a lot better tank. That should be enough for lvl 3 missions. not sure how much can caldari get out of it.
Casandra Laur
Bleu Femme Felis
#9 - 2016-11-22 14:10:01 UTC
Thanks for the replies and encouragement.

I'll just have to have patience while I train up my skills.

-Cassy
Fatima Foont
#10 - 2016-11-22 15:50:08 UTC
Casandra Laur wrote:
Thanks for the replies and encouragement.

I'll just have to have patience while I train up my skills.

-Cassy


That's the game in a nutshell. If you do that you will be fine
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#11 - 2016-11-22 16:05:46 UTC
Casandra Laur wrote:
As I understand, us Alphas will not be receiving these new ships. Free accounts don't get them. (It's going to take a lot of missions to buy them, but by then will I really need one?)

Just as well, we probably wouldn't be able to fit them good enough to be effective. These SoCT ships have very good drone bays, with bonuses for the drones. Alphas are very limited in the drone department, so it may not help us very much.


But hey, for some reason we can use smart bombs.

Cassy


ill help you out as you seem polite, message me and you can have my gnosis for free, do as you please with it

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Casandra Laur
Bleu Femme Felis
#12 - 2016-11-23 14:01:39 UTC
Lan,

Thank you very much for the offer.

Another kind person already gave me one.

Still at the first level, so it may be a while until I actually fly the Gnosis.

-Cassy
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#13 - 2016-11-23 14:29:48 UTC
Casandra Laur wrote:
Lan,

Thank you very much for the offer.

Another kind person already gave me one.

Still at the first level, so it may be a while until I actually fly the Gnosis.

-Cassy


then you can just sell one and have some isk for yourself :)

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*