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EVE Online: Ascension - General feedback (PC)

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Quazided
Doomheim
#641 - 2016-11-19 12:19:58 UTC
Countess Markievicz wrote:
Quazided wrote:
Countess Markievicz wrote:
Just out of curiosity, did CCP actually test the new Aura voice in any way before it was inflicted upon us?

A group of CCP employees sitting around a table telling each other that they are, 'super excited' about the new voice does not count.


They did indeed "test" it on sisi. But Ignored all our feedback on it. See this thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=496332

However they did change docking excepted to accepted so we know changes are possible..

She doesnt sound that bad in the NPE. Seems the production value on the phrases we hear the most is just poor. Whoever past those through QA needs a serious talking to.

CCP will we have to attack a certain in game monument for you to listen to us? #incarna

A quote from CCP in 2011:

"In the months leading up to Incarna, we failed to properly acknowledge the sentiment of the community and I think that's a lesson we've learned extremely hard," said Gylfason, adding that it's "hopefully a mistake we're never going to make again."





Am I being unreasonable by suggestion that if CCP Falcon was involved in any way shape or form, that he will argue that the two people who like the new Aura, represent overwhelming support for the new Donald Duck on speed voice?

CCP Falcon has form in this regard.


I think youre correct and i suspect CCP's formula is something like this:

Out of all our subs only a "few" have complained = overwhelming support!

CCP have tried to cram too much into a single expansion again, I thought thats why they moved to a six week release schedule so we wouldnt get poor quality or broken features? I'd be happy with no major updates for a while if they used that time to fix all the bugs and add some of the "little things" we've been asking for, like a proper drone interface for example.

I've muted Aura on all my accounts now. CCP Falcon has given us the answer:

"nope"
Miss Miko
Virtus Crusade
Brave Collective
#642 - 2016-11-19 13:42:35 UTC
Please CCP could you remove those new extreme big numbers when stacking items, and please remove the yellow surroundings for the omega only things. My hangar looks like a mix of telefone for old people and browser game!
Drizden D'Urden
Cohortes Vigilum
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#643 - 2016-11-19 14:03:52 UTC
Bring back the old Aura voice !! You should really ask some feedback before you start changing things like that - us bitter-vets have loved our Aura for the last 10+ years. In fact, one of the best sexy things about Eve when I started playing. Now it sounds like a woman in a tin can !!!
Drago Hakuli
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#644 - 2016-11-19 14:17:44 UTC
Apologies in advance, but I did a bit of a tl;dr on the thread past page 18 or so...

I don't mind the new Aura. I preferred the old voice, sure, but I'm equally not going to go berserk over the new one. I'll deal with it.

The two main grievances I have with the new UI, though, are the new Character Sheet / Training Queue and those goddamn tooltips.

The char sheet needs some work, specifically on the skills tab. The skill categories aren't in any sort of order, or if they are it's beyond me what it is; the icons aren't brilliant, which means when I minimise the categories so I have more space for the queue I don't easily find what i'm looking for; the queue itself shouldn't be tacked into the char sheet, it worked much better as a separate window; and, finally, the actual representation of skills is poor. On the plus side, you have at least added the SP counts back in the tool tip which was not there when I played on SiSi to test.

The tool tips are not inherently a bad idea, but they show up way too quickly. If I so much as skim something with my cursor, I get a tool tip. The delay should be longer so that you have to actually hover and wait, maybe two seconds, before they appear. Not just "oh, your mouse is over the icon for [insert module here] so have a tool tip!"


On the upside? The new explosions are cool.
Jones Beach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#645 - 2016-11-19 14:21:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jones Beach
There is a fundamental problem with the way the new on grid skirmish boosters work - lets say you have some fast kittie guy flying at around 100k - you send your interceptors out after him - the target starts burning away and your interceptors go in chase. Your command ships cant keep pace with your tackle. which means that when the extended point range would be most useful to catch these fast flying cancer ships - you have outpaced your boosts and will not have them.

Also the new character sheet is awful. Totally useless. Its almost as if a blind guy designed it.
Iwo Sh'ivah
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#646 - 2016-11-19 14:40:14 UTC
Quazided wrote:


CCP will we have to attack a certain in game monument for you to listen to us? #incarna



I'm in. Sooner the better Evil
Mak Ka
H.TK hisec carebear training institute
#647 - 2016-11-19 14:45:00 UTC
omg!

you changed aura's voice...

now I have no reason to hear sounds from eve client but muted it.

plz give us choice to select voices.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#648 - 2016-11-19 16:26:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Sorry for going on about the character sheet. But it makes me angry on the inside every time i look at it.

What am i even looking at? Unbelievable that such a mess got onto TQ. New low for CCP lazyness.

Something else ive not seen mentioned. Its a stackable window that doesnt remember ites width. So it would be quite easy to mess up a whole bunch of window positions for things its stacked with.
Milus
Doomheim
#649 - 2016-11-19 17:18:12 UTC
A bug has been occuring where the ice anom's fail to despawn when empty. When this happens they won't respawn at all. I now know why this happens - every time an ice harvester drone gets the last piece of ice, this bug occurs.
LeFleur
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#650 - 2016-11-19 18:22:46 UTC
First of all, I like the new expansion and love the fitting simulator and new character sheet, as well as the rework on the boosting system.

The only issue I have so far is the Aura voice. I know that using the old one is out of the question, because you are using a lot of audio in the NPE and for consistency it has to remain equal.

What I proppose is add some postproccesing to the new Aura. I've been listening to some old Aura clips on soundlcoud and they had a sort of fullness achieved by audio effects that is simply not present in this new recording. So adding some processing to that audio could work wonders.

Some of the audios also sound clipped because it seems like you used a technique used to say disclaimers, where they cut the spaces between words to make it sound quicker.

I applaud you for getting the same actress to do the audios. Please do her work justice and give us a better Aura. Not the old, not this one, an Aura that works.

All of this comes from the worst experience I had in Eve online so far. I heard Skill Training Complete and felt sad about it.
mo8b8
Gemeinschaft interstellarer Soeldner
#651 - 2016-11-19 19:37:45 UTC
Bring back the old booster!!!!
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#652 - 2016-11-19 21:04:37 UTC
Everyone remember that the CSM signed off on many of these changes that we find lacking, confusing, broken, or just an outright step back. Do we really want CCP wasting money on misleading opinions?
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#653 - 2016-11-19 21:09:58 UTC
Philippa Padecain wrote:
I am unable to use a skill extractor on one of my characters.

I have 5.5m+ skillpoints. I am in a pod. I have cleared my skill queue. I have +4 implants but have Cybernetics 4 , and I have no clones elsewhere.

The error message I get is “The request for skill extraction failed verification. Please try again.”


Did you removed the skill you are trying to extract out of from the skill queue and hit save?
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#654 - 2016-11-19 21:13:06 UTC
Toippo Tokila wrote:
Balabhadra Das wrote:
Toippo Tokila wrote:
Petition #309919

I have experienced loss of skills since Ascension.

For instance, I know for a fact that I have finished Torpedo 5, but now it shows that I only have Torpedo 4. I also suspect, but I’m less sure, that I have finished Covert Ops 5.

I have been away from the game for a while, and only logged in on this character now. Looking at the history, I can’t see any updated skills since October 3 in the history tab. The character has been active and has trained for the whole time I was gone.


Silly question. Are you and Alpha clone or an Omega clone currently?

If you are an Alpha skills are limited to race and very few level 5 skills.

However if you re-activate Omega state (sub) you get your skills back, they are just suspended during Alpha state.


I'm an Omega clone.


Any reason to suspect that your account has been compromised? Sounds like you might have been victim of a skill extractor drive by.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#655 - 2016-11-19 21:16:54 UTC
Yoshi Ikuzo wrote:
The character sheet says:
Train skills at 2X speed.
I don't think this is true. I see no speed difference.



It's a lame, and I mean lame as hell, marketing gimmick. You're training the speed you have always have. Alpha's are training at half speed. Alpha's don't have the big boy pants needed to be told they have half the brain power of real players.
Zeros Soliety
Do not waste your time
#656 - 2016-11-19 21:24:20 UTC
New voice is terrible! EvilEvilEvil

We need old aura voice! Please make some choice "Try new Aura voice"
Balabhadra Das
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#657 - 2016-11-19 21:38:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Balabhadra Das
KIller Wabbit wrote:
Yoshi Ikuzo wrote:
The character sheet says:
Train skills at 2X speed.
I don't think this is true. I see no speed difference.



It's a lame, and I mean lame as hell, marketing gimmick. You're training the speed you have always have. Alpha's are training at half speed. Alpha's don't have the big boy pants needed to be told they have half the brain power of real players.


Yes, it should say "Alpha clone 1/2 speed" "Omega Clone NORMAL speed"

Because.... that's what it is.

FYI. I am an Alpha.
McNoTo
Ugly Spacepilots With Rusty Knifes
#658 - 2016-11-19 22:47:13 UTC  |  Edited by: McNoTo
mo8b8 wrote:
Bring back the old booster!!!!


the next useless update in eve after the dead from skynet. ccp dont like small pvp groups. politics are only for large groups/ alliances who have the manpower for bringing a active link char/ship into the fight and they also maybe dont care for passive bonus..............cause they can still blob. ccp fozzie, pls stop thinking in only one direction. stop stealing content from small groups. bye bye pvp marauder...
Mephiston Entreri
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#659 - 2016-11-19 23:51:37 UTC
I cannot remove skills that were in my queue that are Omega-restricted to be able to train skills that are allowed to Alpha Clones. Those skills were in my queue when my subscription lapsed. I've experienced this now on multiple characters. Really, really annoying. It says to close your skill window and refresh. Doesn't work. So I cannot train anything I'm supposed to be allowed to train. How did this get past QA?

Also, the new Aura is bloody awful. I'm sure the actress has talent and the performance isn't terrible but it's not the Aura I fell in love with when I started playing. I'd like a way to toggle the old Aura back on.
Jeven HouseBenyo
Vanity Thy Name Is
#660 - 2016-11-20 02:57:06 UTC
Iwo Sh'ivah wrote:
Quazided wrote:


CCP will we have to attack a certain in game monument for you to listen to us? #incarna



I'm in. Sooner the better Evil


At least we won't have to pay for the privilege of having a nice Incarna style monument bash this time. Free2Protest bad design choices? Bad Aura revamp? Lazy mouse-over addicted new character sheet/skill queue?

CCP, you did some amazingly good things in Ascension. Alas, that good is overwhelmed by the bad changes made for what seems, yet again, as change for change's sake. Two steps forward, a half marathon in reverse. Why?

Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel.

'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises.

Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup.

Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P

No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.