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Memory Fades
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-11-18 09:53:38 UTC
Hello.

I've watched the documentary about Serenity, and I'm so curious to feel their version of New Eden.

I'd like to understand how to log into the Chinese server, with my current character? (like RnK member did)

If anyone can help with that.
Thank you!
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-11-18 10:38:45 UTC
ive heard its an exploit to gain access to serenity unless you live in china

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Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2016-11-18 10:46:38 UTC
The Chinese state sees too much contact with foreigners as corrosive to values and i'm inclined to agree.
Why you would want access to a smaller population version of eve i don't know, unless it's just a silly wanting of that-which-you-are-not-allowed.
You have nothing to offer the people there.


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Keno Skir
#4 - 2016-11-18 11:13:21 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
The Chinese state sees too much contact with foreigners as corrosive to values and i'm inclined to agree.
Why you would want access to a smaller population version of eve i don't know, unless it's just a silly wanting of that-which-you-are-not-allowed.
You have nothing to offer the people there.




Tbh purely because it's an alternate version of something we're all heavily involved in would be enough reason for any one of us to want to go check it out. Like an alternate ending :P

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#5 - 2016-11-18 11:19:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
I see it as worse in every aspect.

Less people, everyone speaks and writes chinese. There are ISK prices thru the roof.

Not playable at all for me. I think chinese people with chinese values can play it because of the way chinese internet works. 🙈🙉🙊

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Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
#6 - 2016-11-18 12:06:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaxon Grylls
Nana Skalski wrote:
Less people, everyone speaks and writes chinese..

Really?

How curious.Lol
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#7 - 2016-11-18 12:30:03 UTC
I think it's true that they only use Chinese on Chinese server. So if you can't read Chinese, don't try it.
And also there's a totally different play style, because the company run the Chinese server turns a blind eye to using macros, so there're many bots mining, ratting, modifying market orders or even performing pvp fleet fights.
RMT is also acceptable there. I know a guy purchased 2 titan pilots with 18000 CNY (Chinese currency, about 2600 USD). (and somemody else knew about the trade detail and blew up that 2 titans at the trade site Lol
Plex is 50 CNY (7.5 USD) there, cheaper.
One more thing, there're far more trollers among Chinese than among westerns, and that's why I don't play there (pure Chinese myself).
Keno Skir
#8 - 2016-11-18 12:42:20 UTC
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
One more thing, there're far more trollers among Chinese than among westerns, and that's why I don't play there (pure Chinese myself).


Can you define what you mean by "trollers" please?

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Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#9 - 2016-11-18 13:14:15 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
One more thing, there're far more trollers among Chinese than among westerns, and that's why I don't play there (pure Chinese myself).


Can you define what you mean by "trollers" please?


those posting inflammatory or inappropriate messages or comments on (the Internet, especially a message board) for the purpose of upsetting other users and provoking a response
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#10 - 2016-11-18 13:48:12 UTC
it can only be done from a Chinese IP address and via the Chinese website with a Chinese ID. That being said, if you do access it and you are not in the geo-political boundary of China, you may be found in violation of the EULA/TOS.

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Lieutenant

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#11 - 2016-11-18 17:01:54 UTC
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Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-11-18 17:03:43 UTC
Fair enough. It's a valid question, though. Without getting into politics - can one play on Serenity from Tibet without violating the TOS our EULA?
Lord Maldoror
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
#13 - 2016-11-18 17:09:33 UTC
Memory Fades wrote:
Hello.

I've watched the documentary about Serenity, and I'm so curious to feel their version of New Eden.

I'd like to understand how to log into the Chinese server, with my current character? (like RnK member did)

If anyone can help with that.
Thank you!


When I join an adventure on Serenity I'm not playing with my TQ accounts; the databases are separate. There is also no working English Client, which means that you'd need to either speak Chinese or know someone there to help you (I don't speak Chinese, so it's the latter for me).

If you are simply curious about the kind of campaigns fought on Serenity, I do occasional write-ups such as The Letter War. It's interesting to see what changes when Eve is transposed to the East, and what remains the same (as the saying goes, War Never Changes).

You might also be interested in Hilmar's presentation at Fanfest about our video to do with the meta interplay between the servers. The original video is here.

Rooks and Kings Youtube
Lord Maldoror
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
#14 - 2016-11-18 17:39:35 UTC
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:

One more thing, there're far more trollers among Chinese than among westerns, and that's why I don't play there (pure Chinese myself).


This is an interesting aspect, since we in the West tend to think of Chinese internet as a very regulated zone. While that's true to an extent, the reality is a little more complex: it's also very much the Wild Wild East.

Eve is the sandbox MMO most associated with the underbelly of the internet. It's probably no accident that in the recent Silk Road trials a screenshot showed Eve installed on DPR's laptop.

It's important to remember that identity is best established in the most free environment. Trolling, as you call it, is probably not something you associate that much with Rooks and Kings (although this could be because you don't know John Caffeine personally) - and yet its important to be surrounded by the opportunity to do something even if you don't. An action only has meaning if you had the opportunity to do the opposite. Besides, the Devil is a gentleman.

Serenity definitely has a more ruthless edge than people expect, especially in the high-end metagame.

The Serenity group I tend to write about and who have been featured a little in videos, such as MB, Fulcrum, XianXian, etc., certainly have forged their own identity and that's in part thanks to their exploits unfolding in a very anarchic sandbox.

ISD Max Trix wrote:
it can only be done from a Chinese IP address and via the Chinese website with a Chinese ID. That being said, if you do access it and you are not in the geo-political boundary of China, you may be found in violation of the EULA/TOS.


No VPN is required to access Serenity, which is ironic since VPNs/hardware ids are used extensively in the spying meta of Eve. I suppose it's another example of Eve's meta excess outdoing real life intrigue. However, as you say, making accounts there is complex and certainly requires a good understanding of Chinese language; as a non-speaker I'm able to join the action now and then only by the grace of others.

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Lord Maldoror
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
#15 - 2016-11-18 17:59:45 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:


Tbh purely because it's an alternate version of something we're all heavily involved in would be enough reason for any one of us to want to go check it out. Like an alternate ending :P


Indeed, although I think TQ will always be home for TQ players, it's interesting to learn of what changes and what remains the same.

Serenity certainly has a culture in the metagame that places extreme emphasis on decisive, apex fleet combat. Although the sever population is smaller, the big battles are as grand or larger. I was reminded of this a few weeks ago when I joined a battle where a few hundred dreadnoughts died (mostly the enemy's). Unfortunately the dastardly scoundrels primed me early on, although this allows me to bring you some extrazoom 5k screens (you can use your mousewheel to zoom around the battlefield).

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Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2016-11-18 18:11:00 UTC
Lord Maldoror wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:


Tbh purely because it's an alternate version of something we're all heavily involved in would be enough reason for any one of us to want to go check it out. Like an alternate ending :P


Indeed, although I think TQ will always be home for TQ players, it's interesting to learn of what changes and what remains the same.

Serenity certainly has a culture in the metagame that places extreme emphasis on decisive, apex fleet combat. Although the sever population is smaller, the big battles are as grand or larger. I was reminded of this a few weeks ago when I joined a battle where a few hundred dreadnoughts died (mostly the enemy's). Unfortunately the dastardly scoundrels primed me early on, although this allows me to bring you some extrazoom 5k screens (you can use your mousewheel to zoom around the battlefield).


do you ever plan to return to tq?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

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Memory Fades
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-11-18 20:24:44 UTC
Wow!
Thank you for all the replies, specially Lord Maldoror I really appreciate all the information.
Yes I see now that trying to log into Serenity is not a simple thing, and I'm not motivated enough to go through all that :) But interesting to know about whats going on there indeed.
<3
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#18 - 2016-11-19 02:20:49 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Fair enough. It's a valid question, though. Without getting into politics - can one play on Serenity from Tibet without violating the TOS our EULA?



Presumably you can, as it's a de facto if not de jure part of China. vOv

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Bumble's Space Log
Rin Vocaloid2
DUST University
#19 - 2016-11-19 02:39:46 UTC
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
One more thing, there're far more trollers among Chinese than among westerns, and that's why I don't play there (pure Chinese myself).


Can you define what you mean by "trollers" please?


those posting inflammatory or inappropriate messages or comments on (the Internet, especially a message board) for the purpose of upsetting other users and provoking a response


It's almost like you're reminding me of all of us here.Shocked