EVE General Discussion

I don't understand why sending people out of the game client to get the information they need to make an in game decision is a good idea.
It it really that important to being "gud" that people have to use google?

Logically that would mean by extension that the more difficult you make it to find the information the "gudder" you make the players. Sod google, encrypt the information and don't tell anyone the key. That way only the most elite of the elite players will have access.

Damage should be color coded.

Boom headshot! .............. f f f f f fatality!

He/she/xe took a totally fallacious argument and utterly dismantled it. If anything he took the example and he turned it right around so it was facing the other way.
It deserved a meme style recognition of the brutality of the demolition.

Which point is that?

Frankly, I actually really like the WoW designer's philosophy as to what went into the game and what stayed out. His question was always, "Is it fun?" People tweeting him or talking to him would always get a lot more attention by saying something wasn't fun than that it was unbalanced or broken.

Different damage types in WoW weren't fun. It was pointless complexity. It just meant that you had to keep multiple types of gear around for when you eventually had a fight that required damage resist against that particular type of damage. So they removed them mechanically, but left the flavor text in.

CCP would have done itself a major favor if it started from the question, "is it fun?" for any feature they were implementing. That probably would have prevented loot spew as a mechanic. It also would have gotten them to replace mining mechanics a long time ago. Though I guess there are people who like mining as is in the same way that some people really love elevator music.

For all the grief that people give WoW on these forums, at least their priorities are in the right place. WoW is focused on fun and would never force a sh**ty interface down people's throats on the idea that hard to use controls make the game better. Thinking gameplay is always better than remembering gameplay.

I'm okay with color with something else (color blind folks and all), but I think an icon or icons next to it would also be beneficial. I think Blasters range between 3:2 to 6:5 for kin:therm damage. It would be nice to see some proportion laid out. Though things may change dramatically when ammo tiericide happens.

P.S. also blue on black doesn't seem like it would be very readable.

Considering all the things that an Eve player has to consider in the moment-to-moment, I don't think it is at all dumbing down to simply provide the information that the players will eventually find anyway. By not including it in a blatant, in-game representation, it's only serving to delay the inevitable and discourage learning.

The guy had a point. I remember when the first time I found out about damage types (and why they really mattered) when I looked at another player's bio and say the damage type chart. Why that wasn't provided to me as part of the NPE is baffling, to say the least, and imo encourages players to invest time and skills into weapon systems they may want to change later once that information is provided.

Which is ultimately the argument against the previous NPE to begin with: You make a character and you start down a path, and when you finally learn enough about the game to make informed decisions on what type of ships you want to fly, you've already invested too much time/effort into that character. So your options are to start all over again on the same character, or re-roll a new one. This goes for RP reasons (learning that the Federation ain't all a box of chocolates), ship classes (investing in Assault Frigates only to find out T3 Destroyers trump them), and weapon systems (being stuck with EM/Thermal with lasers).

So, nah, I don't think it's dumbing down at all, especially considering how integral it is to making a working fit.

Memorization is NOT skill. Skill is completion of complex activities.