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Compressed Ore in Hi sec
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Mara Jeda
Colonial Industries
#21 - 2016-11-07 18:50:41 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
The issue isnt so much the price tag its how easily its attackable and how hard it is to pick up and move around. This was something CCP intended, you cant have it unless you defend it, but in doing so have nerfed a playstyle quite seriously. Balance is hard and itll never be right regardless of how well thought out imo. It was too easy to dodge things but also it is too easy to attack things, this being a game attacking and fun go hand in hand so its sort of a nature of the beast issue for me.

I have actually been surprised at how many citadels have gone up around high sec and how many have stayed public. And here I thought Penirgman was station busy but Perimeter will give it a go soon enough. I was always worried about the space junk on overviews though but we shall see in the future.

Engineering complexs are supposed to be cheaper but who knows if they will have shorter tear down times. But the way CCP is heading is to make everything destructible and then watch null burn high sec when theres no recourse and then farm out, aka tax heavily, all high sec into oblivion and make it like the null lite renter area.

Do they really want to do away with NPC stations??? where are they just hinting at that or is just wild speculation ive read around
Alana Packham
Corporation N
#22 - 2016-11-07 21:18:04 UTC
For the solo/small fleet miner POS's were brilliant, up and down anywhere there's room, carry it in your orca or hauler and low costs even if destroyed, the problem was that people liked them.

CCP are like your local supermarket, as soon as you find something you like they replace it with something more expensive that isn't what you want, and either doesn't do the job or tastes like cardboard.

Start saying you like billion isk citadels that take forever to put up and down, can be seen instantly by everyone and can't do a fraction of what a POS did.

They might just replace them in a few years with a new system, the Player Owned Station....

and as for the question, as people have said any citadel with reprocessing activated has free ore compressing.

Its not that the Dev's have never been hi-sec miners, more that if they ever admitted it they'd be designing new pattern's in the dust as they sweep the car park. Would you employ someone who spends all day mining in hi?
Rasputin Demonde
Pagan Products
#23 - 2016-11-08 03:17:24 UTC
CCP has their head so far up the larger null corps arses , that they are losing the pay to play casual , and high sec players . Like myself . I have been playing and paying since open beta , and when my sub is up in Feb. I will not be paying to play anymore . I am sick of the constant nerf/buff , and changes made to the game for isk destruction, all in CCPs favor .
Rage Guy
Heimatar Hull Mining Group
#24 - 2016-11-08 10:46:27 UTC
Rasputin Demonde wrote:
CCP has their head so far up the larger null corps arses , that they are losing the pay to play casual , and high sec players . Like myself . I have been playing and paying since open beta , and when my sub is up in Feb. I will not be paying to play anymore . I am sick of the constant nerf/buff , and changes made to the game for isk destruction, all in CCPs favor .

It's all about skins and AUR store monocles these days.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2016-11-08 11:39:09 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
Solonius Rex wrote:
You cant expect to be a nomad AND have a house.


We have been able to do it for years with small POSes.

We (nullseccers) lived without Fozzie-fatique for years.... But times changing....

Don't expect something to be broken forever

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#26 - 2016-11-11 02:36:08 UTC
13kr1d1 wrote:
which is all pretty dumb.

Giving away services for free when you could charge and get money?



If you can get a system with good belts and wardec anyone elses citadel out of system you're laughing. Can you charge for compression?

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#27 - 2016-11-11 04:01:53 UTC
Mara Jeda wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
The issue isnt so much the price tag its how easily its attackable and how hard it is to pick up and move around. This was something CCP intended, you cant have it unless you defend it, but in doing so have nerfed a playstyle quite seriously. Balance is hard and itll never be right regardless of how well thought out imo. It was too easy to dodge things but also it is too easy to attack things, this being a game attacking and fun go hand in hand so its sort of a nature of the beast issue for me.

I have actually been surprised at how many citadels have gone up around high sec and how many have stayed public. And here I thought Penirgman was station busy but Perimeter will give it a go soon enough. I was always worried about the space junk on overviews though but we shall see in the future.

Engineering complexs are supposed to be cheaper but who knows if they will have shorter tear down times. But the way CCP is heading is to make everything destructible and then watch null burn high sec when theres no recourse and then farm out, aka tax heavily, all high sec into oblivion and make it like the null lite renter area.

Do they really want to do away with NPC stations??? where are they just hinting at that or is just wild speculation ive read around

Afaik no there is no reason to remove NPC stations but the tax incentives to use citadels will likely only increase rather than decrease until only citadel usage will be cost efficient. Which then makes anyone playing, even in high sec, vulnerable to someone else telling them how to play and what to pay. CCP doesnt seem to care about this part of the player base imo that wants freedom and autonomy. Power, greed and crushing control is much more apt in this dark dystopian universe we call Eve. The dark gods of the underworld come to life and ruling over billions and trillions of people forever while the average man dies under the brutal weight of the yolk placed around their neck from cradle to the grave, short and filled with misery, hunger and death.

@Hal Morsh: not that I know of but you can charge for docking and such things Im sure or work out a deal with the owners on a monthly basis.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
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