Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ok, now this is really pissing me off right now. Not only do you flood my hangar screens with ads, flood my launcher with huge ads, clutter the news stream with ads ... now you also show ingame CCP notifications containing ads. This is getting out of hand!

I do not care about your petty developer feelings, but you better add an ad blocker right away so that I can block videos, notifications and all the things related to advertisement that I do not want to see. Alternatively, use your dumb notification widget system and introduce another CCP Notification option concisely called "CCP advertisement" or "New Eden Store Advertisment" that I can untoggle so that I do not see these notifications. It is unbelievable that you use your system notifications that ought to be reserved for important things like downtimes, emergencies, patch announcements for advertisement of your NES garbage.

I pay my subscriptions, which means I pay them more than enough money. An ad blocker also does not lose them money, it makes them earn more money because I see the ads that I want to see more often. Instead of getting bombarded with the ugly CFC ads that no one wants to watch or the one with the glasses that belittles and inferiorates people because you can only have a clear vision by making yourself look like a degenerate goof, I could see some more interesting and intriguing ones like Brave or the chilling EVE Radio ad.
In fact, ads turned into a big deal now that CCP also uses the notification system to market their garbage skins and soon other stuff in the NES ( https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/news-from-eve-vegas/ just for your information) and I cannot turn that notification off because I would then miss out on really important notifications, as described above. It also can't be that I have to rotate my hangar camera away from the screens just to ignore something I do not want to see can't be the solution to this problem. Instead of making my gameplay experience worse and make me not see any ad at all, CCP should at the very least strive to make me want to see ads that I could potentially like. But apparently no one in their many offices has this kind of foresight.

Agreed.

yeah thats why i pay a subscription to HBO so i can watch adds


this crap needs to go just got off SISI now not only are these things in hangers but all over the outside too

Go to Sisi. The 6-C station is plastered with at least 8 screens now, facing in all directions around the stations so that even turning the camera away is not going to help with "ignoring them" anymore. The fact that I have to turn my camera around with every docking process is impacting my gameplay. It means otherwise unnecessary and unwanted clicks and mouse movements with every dock.
If you have not seen a NES advert, you have not been online before the DT or must have turned off CCP Notifications. They blurted an ingame notification out into the wild with the notification system that was disguised as a CCP system notification, ie. something that you would expect to be important and not this garbage.

Stop implying that I want to see ads removed. I am not advocating for removing them, I merely want to be able to chose what I see, exactly like I can do in RL. I can screw over any website with ad blockers and only have them display what I want to see how I want to see it. It is not a "pointless" endeavor if you take into consideration that ads have been a highly controversial issue for years now and CCP knows that (if they didn't, they'd be just as incompetent as I think they are). Instead of forcing people to watch ads all day, every day, all the time everywhere, they should have been more intelligent (displaying some capacity as developers, since they ride every other hype train on the internet and shout out to any insignificant trend in their shows and websites, but they leave this controversial issue completely out of their narrowminded focus) and provide people with tools to form their ad experience after their liking. The billboards are fancy (the concept art from one of the past fanfests on the Amarr station was quite a sight to behold, to be honest), but it turns into a major headache if I have to watch ads of my adversaries all day in my stations and my structures or if Jita is not plastered with 100s of depots but 100s of flashing, flickering, lag creating and bandwidth/cpu/gpu murdering billboards.

It may be affecting gameplay for some. when my hangar actions go to crap on the mac os client (inb4 well gaming on a mac duh...) one of the first signs of issue is the ads go to crap. Stutters and stalls, no smooth framerate, jitters (slight video speed changes basically).

Whether a cause of other hangar issues (base functions like stack all become a pita, framerate can be not so great) or a symptom of something else making hangar actions suck ass in general from time to time....I can't say.

It be nice to turn this off to isolate. Like I have selectively turned on and off every other graphical feature in eve to get mix of decent framerate and appearance in eve. Lacking that...I will say its the video ads jacking stuff up. load we may not need. All I know is I undock and things get smoother. When in theory it shouldn't as I do renderings for ships nearby, the station, etc. this to me would be harder on system really.



side note: I do appreciate your efforts here CCP (if read) on the mac client. But I won't lie, I liked the cider client better, but I understand the background business reasons for the wine switch with potential changes to cider after its changes.

First of all: Right now CCP does not make any money with the ingame player entity ads, they just waste dev time on implementing them into the game. Secondly, CCP can't lose out money should they ever turn that into a PLEX-for-Ad- busines because people already have paid for the ads and people will still watch them because most players are ignorant and oblivious. I also attest you some reading ignorance because you ignored the part where I stated that I only want to block certain ads, not the screens themselves. Please read and comprehend before you answer. What I wan is a way to prevent my screens in my game to display things that I do not want to see because enemy propaganda or really bad and unimaginative ads (I look at you, CFC and Zarvox) do not make my gameplay experience better. What they do is showing people just how bad this game actually is. What I also want is a way to prevent CCP to abuse thee system notification type for ads like the one in the morning about the Tronhadar sale and instead use a dedicated ad type so that people who want to see important CCP notifications can keep receiving them but do not have to bother with the increasing number of ad abuses by CCP.

You also don't gain more players by introducing a toxic and highly disliked feature into the game so that even more people shy away from paying subscriptions. In that regard, I beg beg your pardon because I have made several suggestions on how to improve game play, make the game more accessible and better to understand for all kinds of players. In contrast to you I have actually done my share to suggest reasonable, gameplay expanding and improving things for the game.


Right now, if someone placed hundreds of depots in Jita or any other place for advertisement, it lags my client out when I arrive on grid or undock, and particularly on undocking it increases the length of the already lengthy black screen during that process. Now imagine if these depots were billboards.

As for the immersion, read above. I am not advocating against billboards, I am advocating for a way to influence what I see. I can do that in my overview, with the inspace brackets, in chats I can block people and I can kick or mute or block people from chat participation or mailing list participation, just to name a couple of examples. What I advocate for is perfectly fine and in line with already existing social moderation features (that are in dire need of an overhaul, also something that I suggested in my many gameplay improving suggestions, donna. ).

This isn't just about revenue - some people are photosensitive which makes the flashing and flickering ads a real annoyance. I also pay for my subscriptions and would gladly pay a bit more for the right to turn it off. As it is,the first thing I do when docking is point my view to the floor - that does not add to my enjoyment of the game!

Funny how quickly people are willing to pay more subscription just because one guy mentioned it. Fearmonginger, however, about the necessity of increasing subscription payments just because of "lack of ad revenue" are completely unbased. CCP makes more than enough profits (marketsforisk.blogspot.de/2016/04/ccp-financial-statements-for-2015-review.html) and there is no reason whatsoever to fearmonger increasing subscription rates in order to discredit this suggestion, nor is there a reason to preemptively give CCP bad ideas about raising the subscription rate with a premium for ad free playing. That notion is just as ridiculous and dumb as donna's suggestion, CCP would lose money due to an ad blocker.

No, they cannot be smart. In contrast to websites, add aren't served by some algorithm. The ads on the billboards are served from a specific pool on the server, and it is easy enough to allow people to tell the server via the client which ads to load in my client and which ads not. There is no way to circumvent that by the people creating the ads because every ad has a specific id in the pool, which the ad creator cannot influence after submission and which can easily be checked off in a simple menu. Next try, Lan.