These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE Launcher

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

EVE Launcher version 1069348

First post
Author
CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2016-09-01 11:19:58 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Snorlax
EVE Launcher version 1069348 has been deployed with the following changes:

  • Updated translations.
  • Added diagnostics for SSL issues in network diagnostics dialog.
  • Mac users switched to using Wine.

CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#2 - 2016-09-02 01:50:47 UTC
One of these days the EVE Launcher will be usable on a high density display...one of these days
CCP nLock
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2016-09-19 13:30:03 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Avalon
GUI v1034 is live on release.

This update is primarily made to improve the overall user experience of the launcher

Changelist:

  • Moved "Forget all accounts" button to Settings menu
  • Removed drop-down menu at top of account list
  • Auto-login is now enabled by default, and can no longer be toggled off
  • Removed logout button. Accounts can be removed individually with the X icon, or all at once via "Forget all accounts" button
  • Checkbox for remember account added to the login window
  • Launcher should now be more aware of downtime and update the server status accordingly
CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2016-09-19 13:34:48 UTC
Jack Tronic wrote:
One of these days the EVE Launcher will be usable on a high density display...one of these days

Soon - try the dev version when you get a chance :)

CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/

Zand Vor
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-09-19 17:37:01 UTC
Any chance we can get the launcher to remember the display that is set for each account? Everytime I login I have to reselect which display to use for each of my accounts. Just a small nuisance.

Please fix wormhole combat sites: c1 20mil - c2 40 mil - c3 80 mil - c4 160 mil - c5 320 mil - c6 640 mil

Woke Up Dead
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2016-09-20 03:59:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Woke Up Dead
CCP nLock wrote:
GUI v1034 is live on release.

This update is primarily made to improve the overall user experience of the launcher

Changelist:

  • Moved "Forget all accounts" button to Settings menu
  • Removed drop-down menu at top of account list
  • Auto-login is now enabled by default, and can no longer be toggled off
  • Removed logout button. Accounts can be removed individually with the X icon, or all at once via "Forget all accounts" button
  • Checkbox for remember account added to the login window
  • Launcher should now be more aware of downtime and update the server status accordingly


Why did you remove the option to login? Before this change, I could play on a "common" machine. Login to all my accounts and pin them, then when I returned the next time, I could login one time and the launcher would allow me to load all my accounts.

NOW, I have to logout every account and re-login EACH ACCOUNT EACH TIME! There are people that use my computer whom I don't want accessing Eve. This now requires I "forget" every account or anyone who uses the computer can access my Eve accounts.

It's a hassle to login to so many accounts every time I want to play. Whoever made this decision really didn't think it through. As far as I can tell you removed functionality for no good reason.

The launcher experience is now worse than it was. At least give me the option to "logout" but keep all the accounts pinned to a single login.
CCP nLock
C C P
C C P Alliance
#7 - 2016-09-20 05:02:38 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP nLock
Woke Up Dead wrote:


Why did you remove the option to login? Before this change, I could play on a "common" machine. Login to all my accounts and pin them, then when I returned the next time, I could login one time and the launcher would allow me to load all my accounts.

NOW, I have to logout every account and re-login EACH ACCOUNT EACH TIME! There are people that use my computer whom I don't want accessing Eve. This now requires I "forget" every account or anyone who uses the computer can access my Eve accounts.

It's a hassle to login to so many accounts every time I want to play. Whoever made this decision really didn't think it through. As far as I can tell you removed functionality for no good reason.

The launcher experience is now worse than it was. At least give me the option to "logout" but keep all the accounts pinned to a single login.


This is very much an intentional change. Like you said yourself, you use a shared machine, and that reduces your account security by quite a lot. As the previous functionality was that you could log in with ANY eve account to bring up ALL saved accounts, we've decided to remove that flow, as it could cause misunderstanding by players and lead to a sense of false security.

Storing your credentials in the launcher is an insecure way of managing your accounts as is explicitly stated in the launcher itself, especially on shared machines. What I could recommend in order to improve your own security, should you wish to continue storing your credentials in the launcher, is to set up your own OS(windows?) account, and install EVE only for that specific account in order to limit other people's access.

Fly safe! o7
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#8 - 2016-09-20 06:20:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
CCP nLock wrote:
This is very much an intentional change. Like you said yourself, you use a shared machine, and that reduces your account security by quite a lot. As the previous functionality was that you could log in with ANY eve account to bring up ALL saved accounts, we've decided to remove that flow, as it could cause misunderstanding by players and lead to a sense of false security.

And now the launcher opens right away with all accounts logged in if I do not log them out? Please get me wrong, but a "false sense of security" which still requires at least 1 account to log in to access all accounts is still better than virtually no security which requires me to log out all accounts every time I close the client and then log them in again one by one... Seriously, could you please stop overthinking non-problems?

Your "work around" is also quite blatantly a farce. I need to setup a specific user on my PC just to access EVE safely when I work on a shared machine to compensate for a functionality that ought to be included in the launcher (and was included in the launcher until the last update). And then your team argues with security concerns for launcher stored account credentials but enable auto-login by default which cannot be turned off? What kind of methodology is that? Do you even read what you write?

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Anduin Spartan
The Soul Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#9 - 2016-09-20 08:24:39 UTC
Every time you guys think about doing something with the launcher I lose all my toon logins. It's been annoying for sometime now. I get off from work thinking I wanna mine with my 20 toons!!! Get on PC, CCP did something to the launcher, have to re-enter all my username and passwords, rather go do something else. CCP you need stop messing with the launcher or just give up because you don't want to leave it alone and go back to the old login process. As an owner of 20 plus toons and I share the same thoughts of others that have as many toons or have more, stop creating a headache for us.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#10 - 2016-09-20 15:10:31 UTC
CCP nLock wrote:


This is very much an intentional change. Like you said yourself, you use a shared machine, and that reduces your account security by quite a lot. As the previous functionality was that you could log in with ANY eve account to bring up ALL saved accounts, we've decided to remove that flow, as it could cause misunderstanding by players and lead to a sense of false security.

Storing your credentials in the launcher is an insecure way of managing your accounts as is explicitly stated in the launcher itself, especially on shared machines. What I could recommend in order to improve your own security, should you wish to continue storing your credentials in the launcher, is to set up your own OS(windows?) account, and install EVE only for that specific account in order to limit other people's access.

Fly safe! o7


Maybe a middle ground would be to add the option to password protect the launcher itself. That would give the sense that only the launcher is protected by the password, not the actual accounts.

Know a Frozen fan? Check this out

Frozen fanfiction

Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#11 - 2016-09-26 06:23:09 UTC
Yesterday, I noticed by pure chance that CCP was live on Twitch because I noticed by chance that you have a new icon on the LEFT side of the launcher (which breaks with the UI style of the rest of the icons on the left side, just saying) but no information at all on the RIGHT side in the news scroll. It's not strictly your fault, but the guys who thought that up should be slapped in the face. Replacing the time/date info in the news scroll with a simple icon far away from that news section and hoping people join is questionable UI design and information presentation.

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Circumstantial Evidence
#12 - 2016-09-27 23:02:30 UTC
I'd like to call attention to a minor regression with account selection toggle buttons, noted in this report: EBR-77102
Tzuko1
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2016-10-19 06:38:34 UTC
This new build dont want to install for me just keep dropping "ok to update" and it repeats again till i cancel it but than i have to write my login information every single time again. Its very annoying.....
CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2016-10-19 10:14:23 UTC
Tzuko1 wrote:
This new build dont want to install for me just keep dropping "ok to update" and it repeats again till i cancel it but than i have to write my login information every single time again. Its very annoying.....

The dev build was broken for a while yesterday - you need to reinstall the official version.

CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/

Circumstantial Evidence
#15 - 2016-10-23 14:13:32 UTC
Circumstantial Evidence wrote:
I'd like to call attention to a minor regression with account selection toggle buttons, noted in this report: EBR-77102
This is still a problem, first noticed after the (very welcome) fix to account pinning.