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The Blood Faith

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Sanguina Dieudonne
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-10-21 20:37:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Sanguina Dieudonne
"In the beginning all things were as one.
God parted them and breathed life into his creation
Divided the parts and gave each its place
And unto each, bestowed purpose"


One of the greatest questions we can ask ourselves is “why are we here?” God created humanity with a place and purpose; God created this universe for humanity. We Sanist have a clear understanding of our purpose, and this drives us to prove our worth.

God is the supreme creator of all. He created this incredibly complex system that we call the universe and our species for a reason. For thousands of years prophets and Scriptures have been clear: we are not here by accident.

Some weak willed fools say God values submission and humility; that God values service and supplication. Those who kneel are saved, but is this what God wants? Why would God want more servants? Servants and slaves are easy for Him to make. We’ve seen the Sefrim. Those are God’s servants. Those are God’s slaves, and they are far better at that than we could ever be. Why then would God duplicate his efforts?

If God wanted servants, he doesn’t need to create this universe, the most complicated system, to get servants. God has created servants from whole cloth in His realm. There’s no intermediary step needed.

God wants something else. Something that He cannot create from scratch. Something that takes intermediary steps. It is not servants or slaves the Creator seeks. It is companions the Creator seeks. God wants those that create. God wants those that excel. God wants the strong, like Him.

To create something complex like a fusion reactor, we have to make the tools, to make the tools, to make the tools, and so on before we can actually assemble such a device. The same is true with the universe and humanity. To create beings worthy of companionship with the Almighty God is incredibly difficult, requiring intermediate steps, and a complex filtering system that we call the universe. Most of humanity doesn’t make the cut through quality control, as it were. Most of humanity is discarded.

This life is a test, a test to prove our worthiness, to prove that we deserve Paradise and communion with God. This is the core of the Sani faith. Not everyone will reach Paradise. This is why we don’t believe in a forced conversion; it is useless.

Our use of blood is two fold. The first is cultural.

By wearing a vial of blood around my neck, I show that I am a member of the Blood Faith, in the same way that my vestments mark me as a priestess. It is a way for Sanists to identify one another. It is a reminder of our beliefs, our faith, and that our test is every day. The blood motif is so prevalent among Sanists for cultural reasons, not spiritual.

The second use of blood is spiritual.

I will speak here on my sect, the Ordo Sani Calix. At mass, we offer up a sacrifice to God, as close to a pure unblemished sacrifice as we can find. Their death is a show of our strength, an offering to the Lord, and our source of blood. Their blood, as pure as it is, washes away any blemish that we might have. All the congregation drinks of this blood, partaking in the sacrifice and ritual. It is our communion with God and each other.

This is the spiritual purpose for blood. God has told us what He wants from us, and we show our agreement with Him by this rite.

As to those we sacrifice to the Lord, I view it as a mercy. For their young soul is taken to Paradise to join a cherubic choir. They will not be companions of the Lord, but they are not discarded as chaff. As most will never enter Paradise, this is really the best they can hope for.

For those that are Sani: be the best you can be. God wants the best: the best singers, the best painters, the best scientist, the smartest, the strongest. God wants the best mathematicians, the best warriors. He wants the clever, the cunning. He wants the wise and intelligent. Whatever you do, do it well and prove your worth.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#2 - 2016-10-21 20:45:13 UTC
A thought:

If it is companions and creators that the Creator seeks, why does belief matter? If God seeks the best to build upon, to draw ever closer to worthiness, why would he want those that have to be told to excel, to be given a reason and a goal beyond their own drive for excellence? Why would he not prefer those who don't need him, who feel no need to prove themselves to him, but only need to prove themselves to themselves?
Sanguina Dieudonne
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-10-21 20:55:04 UTC
God seeks companions for Him for eternity. Ensuring those companions are compatible would be important. Our lives are a test and God is the final arbitrator.
Vollhov Jr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2016-10-21 21:06:16 UTC
What the an abomination ?
Ugh !
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#5 - 2016-10-21 21:49:29 UTC
I like sugar cookies.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#6 - 2016-10-21 22:00:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Deitra Vess
So basically your God wants the best. If someone was the best why does it matter if they follow him or not? He supposedly can create the universe but can't subjugate the best, a creation of his own doing unless they give consent or rather willingly worship him. Why does this not make any sense? Why give the chance when he can simply create?
Sanguina Dieudonne
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-10-21 22:11:27 UTC
I think that you've failed to read pretty much everything I wrote.
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#8 - 2016-10-21 23:11:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Teinyhr
Oh look, it's another one of these threads and people. It is kind of telling you lot can't even coalesce under one roof, I've seen what, at least 3-4 different interpretations of this "Blood God", all of them equally unimaginitve. So why would anyone care about a god that is so terrible it cannot even tell its followers to get their **** together for like, one minute.
Sanguina Dieudonne
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-10-21 23:15:30 UTC
Individuality and distinctiveness are a benefit, not a detriment, to Sanists.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#10 - 2016-10-22 01:03:29 UTC
Since I guess I wasn't clear in what I was asking I'll take what I said line by line and address them with quotes from what you said, to make it easier for you to answer the question, of course....

Sentence One:
"So basically your God wants the best."
Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:


For those that are Sani: be the best you can be. God wants the best: the best singers, the best painters, the best scientist, the smartest, the strongest. God wants the best mathematicians, the best warriors. He wants the clever, the cunning. He wants the wise and intelligent. Whatever you do, do it well and prove your worth.
Pretty self explanatory where that comes from.

Sentence Two:
"If someone was the best why does it matter if they follow him or not? "
Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:


Some weak willed fools say God values submission and humility; that God values service and supplication. Those who kneel are saved, but is this what God wants? Why would God want more servants? Servants and slaves are easy for Him to make. We've seen the Sefrim. Those are God’s servants. Those are God’s slaves, and they are far better at that than we could ever be. Why then would God duplicate his efforts?

If God wanted servants, he doesn't need to create this universe, the most complicated system, to get servants. God has created servants from whole cloth in His realm. There’s no intermediary step needed.

This life is a test, a test to prove our worthiness, to prove that we deserve Paradise and communion with God. This is the core of the Sani faith. Not everyone will reach Paradise. This is why we don’t believe in a forced conversion; it is useless.

Well...... why? This one really ties into sentence three as far as why I'm asking it.

Sentence Three:
"He supposedly can create the universe but can't subjugate the best, a creation of his own doing unless they give consent or rather willingly worship him."
Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:


God is the supreme creator of all. He created this incredibly complex system that we call the universe and our species for a reason. For thousands of years prophets and Scriptures have been clear: we are not here by accident.

To create something complex like a fusion reactor, we have to make the tools, to make the tools, to make the tools, and so on before we can actually assemble such a device. The same is true with the universe and humanity. To create beings worthy of companionship with the Almighty God is incredibly difficult, requiring intermediate steps, and a complex filtering system that we call the universe. Most of humanity doesn't make the cut through quality control, as it were. Most of humanity is discarded.

To take your metaphor we have to make tools to make the tools to make the parts for a reactor. After all, we cant blink and create a universe with our will alone. Do you see where I’m going with this? Either your god is lazy or simply put hes a bad example of what your words preach. As you said, the Sani are driven to be the best they can be, should we put an asterisk next to that sentence, “excluding our creator?” The Sani are the best because they feed off of other peoples weakness in "His name." If i said "I want to go find an Achuran man who is worse at combat than I am and drink his corpse's blood and then spit on a copy of the Scriptures" and went out an did it would I be uplifted by your god? I'm assuming not.

Sentence Four:
"Why does this not make any sense?"

No need to put a quote for this one, its aimed at the majority of the points I've already addressed.

Sentence Five:
Why give the chance when he can simply create?

See question Three...

Sorry for the confusion and yes, I did read it.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2016-10-22 01:08:20 UTC
if i shoot you in the face will i get a skin , maby a hat?
Arrendis
TK Corp
#12 - 2016-10-22 02:08:03 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
if i shoot you in the face will i get a skin , maby a hat?


Apparently you can't tell the difference between a Sanist and a Blood Raider.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2016-10-22 04:34:46 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
if i shoot you in the face will i get a skin , maby a hat?


Apparently you can't tell the difference between a Sanist and a Blood Raider.


To be fair, I'd shoot a lot of people in the face for a nice hat.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#14 - 2016-10-22 05:01:52 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
To be fair, I'd shoot a lot of people in the face for a nice hat.


Well... there's that...
Vlad Cetes
Original Sinners
Pandemic Legion
#15 - 2016-10-22 05:28:40 UTC
Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:

One of the greatest questions we can ask ourselves is “why are we here?” God created humanity with a place and purpose; God created this universe for humanity. We Sanist have a clear understanding of our purpose, and this drives us to prove our worth.

God is the supreme creator of all. He created this incredibly complex system that we call the universe and our species for a reason. For thousands of years prophets and Scriptures have been clear: we are not here by accident.


'God' is a mere figurehead created by primitive humans unable to explain their origins and other natural phenomena before logic and reason could. An obsolete concept.

Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:

God wants something else. Something that He cannot create from scratch. Something that takes intermediary steps. It is not servants or slaves the Creator seeks. It is companions the Creator seeks. God wants those that create. God wants those that excel. God wants the strong, like Him.


Synthetics are the answer to that statement. A race that has evolved itself beyond the shortcomings of humanity. There is one creed: logic and science, that which empowers us to make decisions. There is no want, for everything exists in the whole Collective. There is no fear, no love, no anger. Everything is done with cold logic.

Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:

Most of humanity doesn’t make the cut through quality control, as it were. Most of humanity is discarded.


True.
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#16 - 2016-10-22 05:39:26 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
To be fair, I'd shoot a lot of people in the face for a nice hat.


Well... there's that...


To interrupt this chain of conversation and go back to your point, Arrendis, that there's a difference between Blooders and Sani..

One thing to consider here is the use of a living sacrifice by the OP, and on reading it seems to be a young person (potentially a child). This pretty much lands the OP in Blooder territory. As much as there can be a difference between Sani sects, it's pretty clear this one is not very much different then Nauplius' particular brand of bloodlusting heresy.

The difference is the scale of the murder.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Arrendis
TK Corp
#17 - 2016-10-22 07:39:34 UTC
Utari Onzo wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
To be fair, I'd shoot a lot of people in the face for a nice hat.


Well... there's that...


To interrupt this chain of conversation and go back to your point, Arrendis, that there's a difference between Blooders and Sani..

One thing to consider here is the use of a living sacrifice by the OP, and on reading it seems to be a young person (potentially a child). This pretty much lands the OP in Blooder territory. As much as there can be a difference between Sani sects, it's pretty clear this one is not very much different then Nauplius' particular brand of bloodlusting heresy.

The difference is the scale of the murder.


Not to put too fine a point on it, Utari, but... she never said the sacrifices in her sect were unwilling. If it's someone offering themselves up, then it's hardly murder.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#18 - 2016-10-22 07:45:27 UTC
I See.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#19 - 2016-10-22 08:24:00 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Not to put too fine a point on it, Utari, but... she never said the sacrifices in her sect were unwilling. If it's someone offering themselves up, then it's hardly murder.


She's a Sanist. Of course it's unwilling. Their whole faith is about the power in taking.

Sanists are monsters, and there's no argument they can make to convince otherwise.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#20 - 2016-10-22 08:30:03 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
there's no argument they can make to convince otherwise.


no u.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

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