EVE General Discussion

And it never will be. Eve has always been, and will always be, a niche game that only appeals to a specific mindset of gamer. Despite that, it has survived and grown for thirteen years.

Trying to compare Eve and Wow just because they're both MMOs is like is nonsensical. It's like comparing apples and car tires because they are both vaguely round. They are fundamentally different games built on different concepts of what the game should ultimately be.

A lot of people did so now we have free to play.

Yeah thanks for that.

As a new (returning, under 5m SP) player it is quite obvious that the high sec gank/grief mechanics are cancer to this game. Please note I have never experience ganking or greifing as ive always been in null or low sec myself.

"Player freedom" doesn't mean you should have the ability to harass/gank players in the lawful areas of the game. And the NPC faction should project their power to stop wars in areas they control, in reality these wars would be bad for their stability and economy.

In a game with respawns, "player freedom" should not mean "ability to do whatever you want with no real consequences".


Gankers/griefers are bad for the health of games...just look at gaming history.



****when I say gankers/griefers I am talking about those preying upon people that want to play in safe(low reward) areas and have no desire for pvp.

"I want freedom but please limit the freedom of other people for me because I think they're bad".

Typical carebear.

Steps for Success in Eve-Online:

1. Mining: Use a Procurer and mine in island .5 security systems.

2.Don't buy mining permits.

3.Don't get ganked.

4.Don't get podded.

Because I know whats best for Eve-Online.

5. Never not scissor

2003




It's not a new thing. I started playing in 2007 and people were complaining loudly on various forums then about how ganking in high sec (and stuff like can flipping and what came to be known as awoxxiong etc etc) was going to eventually kill EVE.

The ironic thing was that EVE was growing back then, which they (the "moar safety now!" types) ignored that and kept to the mantra that EVE needed more safety to bring in more people. CCP implemented lots of new safety measures , like the actual safeties that don't let you agress anyone unless you are sure you want to, and pop ups that prevent you from doing things like accidentally jumping into low sec or even leaving a station without a mission-critical item. Eventually,the MMO that grew year by year while most of the rest of the MMO world was in decline started to stall, then decline itself, imo not because of any 'griefing' but because of a misguided attempt to mainstream a game that can't be mainstreamed. EVE doesn't work as a hand holding "everyone should be happy" game.

The most annoying thing of it all is how somehow the same people who always said that 'griefing' was going to kill EVE saw all that as "look, I was right, see!".

Additionally, this was posted in response to my pointing out that he's absolutely obsessed with suicide gankers.

I'm not sure that, "Nuh uh, here's my killboard with all of the kills me and my buddy Concord score on suicide gankers all-day every-day, I'M WINNING I'M A WINNER I'M ELITE!" is the efficacious counterpoint he imagined.

Make sure guns are ungrouped

**** yeah, killboard stats

The way I want to play the game is to protect highsec asteroids and NPCs from unlicensed harvesting without getting disturbed by groups that have another playstyle (unlicensed Mining, unlicensed Missionrunning, etc.) and sabotaging my experience.

Thank you for affirming that there should be a place in new Eden where I can play the game how I want.

1, Biomass Fozzie with Entosing
2. Introduce anti-blobbing mechanics SOMEHOW
3. Make PVP button in Jita, let AT for everyone everyday
4. More modules for ship improvement
5. Remake BS platform to be more viable
6. Bring back ******* Jukebox!
7. Introduce yellow and white Raven skins