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2 posts on the same page contradicting yourself?

Yes, that is what happens when you get involved with RMT. He may not have known it, but guess what that is the way it works and always has been.

Tends to be the way it works in RL too. You drive your buddy to the bank, you wait in the car, he comes back and tells you to go, then when you are pulled over and find out he robbed the bank...yeah, you are in deep **** too even though you had no idea.

People get lured in by their greed and desire for ISK and...well their pretend money got taken because they fell in with the wrong crowd.

BTW, why aren't you pissed at IWI and his long time cronies who set up this situation your friend wanted to join? Here you are raging at CCP which has always taken a strong stance against RMT, but nothing directed at the people who were actually engaged in wrong doing?

Look, if I knew my neighbor was a drug dealer and did nothing about it that is not really a crime.

Now, if I was laundering his money for him...well, now I'm in the soup too.

And spare us this "presumption of innocence" that is something for criminal offenses, not something like this. CCP is well within their rights via their EULA which you signed. At best this would be a civil issue where the standards of "guilt" are much lower.

CCP has U.S. based officers.

CCP uses/relies on U.S. based credit cards.

So the threat is not that the U.S. is going to invade Iceland, but that they might do something like stop CCP from processing U.S. based credit cards--i.e. cut off the U.S. player base.

Seriously, why is this hard to figure out?

Because gambling with virtual game currencies while legal become dubious when RL currencies become involved.

Seriously, go read the stuff about Valve/Steam and the skins gambling.

So there is a RISK with leaving other gambling sites active. You never know if or when they'll go RMT. Monitoring that has costs.

If CCP does not want to incur those costs to avoid that risk....that is not necessarily unreasonable. Especially if these cases start to build up and then they impose various regulatory requirements on companies that allow gambling of their game currencies and items. And those can be costly. I know I work in the utility business and regulations make us do things no other company ever does. We spend quite a bit of time and resources trying to figure out our marginal cost. No unregulated company in the country does that ever. We have dozens of people who work on it to varying degrees. People who have pretty high salaries, pension/retirement and health benefits. It probably costs a couple of million dollars. Since it is a regulatory requirement and since we are regulated monopoly it isn't so bad for us. But for a smaller company that faces competition....

We know bans were issued. We don't know exactly who was banned. That implies we don't know who was involved and not banned as well. Same thing for the ISK.

Both of my statements are consistent with this.

You are not innocent. If you sleep with dogs you get fleas. None of the rest of us want your fleas in the game. Good riddance.

So, no RMTing then, why make a new rule for that?

Look any legit site was operating within the law because there was no conversion to real money, it was all just 0's and 1's somewhere.

So you ban and destroy the sites that break the law and you leave the sites alone that operate within the rules.

You know, like a normal sane person would do.

EDIT: Like honestly, does it not feel really damn dumb that EOH poker takes a hit in this? Its been here since here was here.

With the Valve cases ongoing from CS:GO and the UK going after the FIFA gambling sites. I am not surprised that CCP is trying to kill it before they get dragged into a court somewhere.

Exactly.