Ships & Modules

So, I've come back after a rather long hiatus, and I'm trying to make a harbinger build. Problem is, the thing doesn't seem to want to have anything other than a buffer thank. I struggle to get any kind of active or passive tank and end up allotting so many slots to achieve a somewhat modest tank that I have greatly sacrificed dps. I understand not wanting something to be a huge tank and huge dps, but I can't even get mediocre tank and dps...

Here are a couple fail attempts I've made...

[Harbinger, Brawler (Ranged charges)]

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Analog Booster Afterburner

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Salvager II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II


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[Harbinger, Brawler (Close Quarters Charges)]

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Analog Booster Afterburner

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Salvager II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II


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[Harbinger Navy Issue, Active Shield]

Damage Control II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Booster II
10MN Afterburner II

Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Salvager II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier II
Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier II




If you could help me with whatever it is I'm missing I'd appreciate it, cause I'm not doing well as you can see here.

Test fit on SISI (test server) so you don't waste isk on finding what fit is best for your playing style and skill set on TQ.
CCP have 5x skill injectors that you can redeem on TQ atm

Just playing a tad in EFT this fit look good with power grid and CPU room for low skills in fitting department.
You should be cap stable or close to it with AB not running, max skilled you are cap stable with all running but RR (RR is to keep those drones alive and fighting, drone agro is horrible).

Fit give 554 DPS output and 240 DPS tank with all skills at max, not much but it's what you can manage in a Harb...
Gila or Drake (passive tanked) is the best sub BS lvl4 mission running ships there is, Cyclone and Prophecy is kind of descent but not perfect.

Tip, have salvage drones and variations of fitting in cargo with you (webber, tank mods and so on) and a mobile depot so you can refit. Also use mobile tractor unit to get wrecks in to range.

[Harbinger, PvE]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Coreli A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Coreli A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II

10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery

Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Caldari Navy Vespa x5
Caldari Navy Hornet x5

Best of luck, GC

Not writing a novel but I'd like to respond and explain why I have made the recommendations I have and the fit I linked.
Not all never players know how stacking penalty apply to different types of hardners when combined.
There is a million ways you can fit a ship in eve and many styles of playing so everyone have to find what is good for them, this is just what I prefer but there is a logic on why.

Reason I din't list HAC/T3 ships is that sub BS isk/hour in missions is the skill requirements, BC and T1 crusers have a lot less skill requirements.
Drake is really easy on skill requirements and still be able to run lvl4 missions witch ease, same with the Gila (love to launch my navy vespas with 6400 hp shields and go afk and return to a completed stage).

About adaptive resist mods it's generally true that you get better tank from specific resists hardners but stacking penalty is not in affect as much when using different types as in the listed fit. Using dedicated hardners for each mission only give 368 DPS tank over the 341 from my fit and that's using 2x t2 EM and 1x T2 Thermal hardners and Sansha damage profile which is where you should see the largest difference.
Using 1x T2 EM, 1x T2 Thermal hardner and keeping the reactive do give a bit higher resists than purely dedicated T2 hardners (396 dps) but then it does start to drain a lot of capacitor as well.
If you use the fit as I posted it you can leave the AB running for a lot longer and speed tank a lot of the incoming DPS.

Nano accel instead of aux pump sure but cap will hurt and that is one of the main drawbacks of T1 amarr ships when skills is low and you just start to do lvl4 missions.
I also like the fit to be cap stable when tank is close to the DPS needed especial if it's AB fitted, exception is if I know I have the DPS to kill off the NPC incoming DPS fast enough to not break.

Best regards, GC