EVE General Discussion

I'm no market wizard so no predictions from me, but I changed my mind about Alpha toons. I thought they would be too limited to enjoy all the attractioms of EVE, but when I think about it they will have 'free' game time to learn and understand eve mechanics. Previously people learned EVE the hard way while paying subscription or paying for PLEX, but Alpha toons will be able to experiment and ganked left and right in their noob phase and laugh about the losses instead of raging, because it's a free game for them.

I think this could breed a new culture of newbies who learn to accept pvp nature of eve while not getting hit too hard on the wallet, both IRL and in game. So when they switch to Omega, they will be 'investing' PLEX or subscription fee KNOWING that now they have something real to lose, and this will give more adrenallin pumping experiences for them.

I think there will be many alpha toons who 'don't get eve' and leave easily since it was a free game anyway, but on the other hand those who choose to go Omega will be more familiar with eve universe and culture by that point.

Tl/dr; there will be crap tons of new alpha toons to try game for free, many of them will drop out, but we will get more quality noobs who go Omega. People who don't get the risk and destruction part of the game will stay or drop back to Alpha, peple who want to be part of the action will invest to go/stay as Omega

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DOOOOM!

most of the alpha players are going to leave

the first week is the most boring part of Eve for one big reason you don't have any skills to do anything now it's going to be 2 weeks of not being able to do anything

they seriously need to get rid of the speed penalty being limited to only five million skill points is good enough

we want people to enjoy the game so they will pay we don't want to bore them to death

if I was training at half the speed within my first week I wouldn't be here right now

Might as well just start them at the 5 million and limit any training to omegas. It will eventually be changed to that by CCP in their increasing desperation anyway, so might as well do it now out of the gate and not fritter away all those who sign up from the media stories.

1. I think Plex price go down drastically, because 1. offgridboost beeing removed, so most of these alts will be unsubbed and its skills sold, also there are some production alts that also work when on alpha, so no need to sub them anymore. Also the industrial arrays will make more alliances invest and thus buy plex from ccp and sell them ingame. I also suspect that CCP makes a plex sale on christmas that again causes the price to drop

2. More gankers with alpha alts and so more banned accounts since it is against the tos to make alts to avoid consequences on your main, fair pvp(no links anymore, so goodbye cloacky tengu next to citadel)

It does not matter if player count goes to 50k anf majority og them are alts of existing players. Of course, it won't be ideal, but it will still be better for the game to have more players logged in than not, be it alts or whatever.

PLEX price though I agree it will be tricky to judge. Christmas is cominh, and even without that, somee time after Alpha toons are introduced CCP will surely fo a timely discount on PLEX to encourage those Alphas to spend RL $$$ for PLEX.

/rankid

I have already read and been always aware of the info you linked. My point was that alpha/omega alt/main etc none of that will matter superficially. If it can increase player count that could be beneficial in itself.

And for skill extraction, this is how SP farm works

1. Skill train or inject a few toon to 5m SP (I think it was 5m)

2. Once the SP requirement for extraction is reached, you continue to train & extact

The problem is that people can reach that 5m SP 'for free' now, so no investment is needed at this phase. People only need to PLEX for Omega and start extracting once the SP toon is ready.

This means everyone and their dog can enter SP farm business without the initial investment. Of course, people who built massive SP farms from the start have deeper pockets than most and the sheer scale of operation will help them through, but entry barrier for SP farms will become a lot easier than what it is now.

1. It will go up drastically, already I'm seeing huge procurer fleets in hi ice belts where people are readying their old alt accounts for the f2p, it may kill the ore/ice markets but not before all the plex are bought. Within the year it will be 2 bil isk minimum.

2. The game will be the same as all other f2p mmo games, a train wreck. Remember this is not a p2p game with a f2p option, this is a f2p game with a sub option. Therefore more DDO/LOTRO/SWTOR/STO not WOW which is the only other mmo most people seem to of played.

Downside:

Every system with a station will have 20-30 goldspammers.
The sheer amount of chat abuse will become insane.
People who actively buy plex for cash and subs will disappear after 12 months as the game is 'no longer theirs.'
It will come out on console even though non pc using console players wont understand it so it will be dumbed down to the point of pac man.
You will be able to buy pets that follow your spaceship around.
Every single thing you now take for granted will be paid for in au outside of your subscription, inventory slots will be limited to 100 items in stacks of 100, you have to buy everything else.
Non subs won't be allowed in non sub corps or null.
Forum trolls who don't play the game will decide what happens in the game. (oops, we already have that!)
New content/ships/gear will be aimed at the wallet not game play.
Aurum packs for sale on every screen with a button flashing permanently to remind you.
The game will have sp for sale for aurum, not just the sp injectors on the market. (CCP have obviously been planning this for a looong time.)


Upside:

Whoever owns CCP will make a lot of easy cash as soon as the New Eden store is at its full f2p potential (e.g. afro hair for only $199.99, Titan toon with fitted ship in whatever null system you want $5000) people will always pay, it really is insane.

Up and Down

CCP will be bought out by a movie company who will make 3 amazing films before scrapping the entire game.


I really really hope to be proved wrong but I have seen so many games change beyond belief after going f2p, they make more money and some even have a higher population (although transient) but the game that was just vanished or was shut down..

If it is the only way EVE will survive then fine it needs to be done and good luck to it just hold on for the bumpy ride.

I added more here but it is s new topic in itself so I'm making a new topic.