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Has CCP said if they're going to expand walking in stations?
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Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#121 - 2016-10-06 08:45:52 UTC
Conrad Makbure wrote:
The STO duty officer system is one of the few good things about that game. It's what CCP should have done with Teams, but instead trashed the idea. CCP should revisit Teams to make it more like duty officers; they could tie the missions to EVE lore perhaps? It was a good game system, not too demanding on resources.

While ships have crews, it would be good to see 'em as a part of actual mechanics: moving crews from ship to ship, training 'em for some bonuses, and loosing 'em on ship destruction. Just like some kind of "removable rigs", but it will bring "more life" into Cluster.

Not 'bout WiS, but another good idea.

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Rawthorm
The Establishment
#122 - 2016-10-06 09:13:33 UTC
Faxien Ambramotte wrote:
I'm a filthy casual RP character, but it'd be pretty cool to see more done with WiS


It would be cool, but it will never happen. Why? Because a vocal minority of the player base threw their toys out of the pram last time WiS was worked on, so CCP probably has ZERO incentive to work on it further.

The only way I see this changing is if Alpha's bring in a huge surge of players who want to stay. All of these new players are going to ask the same question and if they collectively and very vocally outweigh the bitter oldies who torpedoed WiS the first time round then CCP might just revive the idea.
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#123 - 2016-10-06 09:45:14 UTC
WIS could be interesting if it conformed to the lore I've read regarding the stratified society where ordinary people have very mixed feelings about "Eggers"
DJ puar
Covert Economics
#124 - 2016-10-06 10:15:24 UTC
That will not happen
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#125 - 2016-10-06 12:27:31 UTC
DJ puar wrote:
That will not happen

We heard the same 'bout F2P.

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Aidiean
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#126 - 2016-10-06 17:53:56 UTC
Personally I would love to see WIS..
hipotecadoydesgraciado
Incursion Omega
#127 - 2016-10-08 21:44:27 UTC
You can wait to SCAM CITIZEN to see some "walk in stations"..
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#128 - 2016-10-08 22:01:00 UTC
hipotecadoydesgraciado wrote:
You can wait to SCAM CITIZEN to see some "walk in stations"..


Just dumb quote why don't you!
Gou Litvyak
Doomheim
#129 - 2016-10-08 22:59:26 UTC
Next year there will be a lot of hype and such, the door in your quarters will finally open, a grand opening!

Behind it? What else, a Walk in New Eden Store! Browse through and try on clothes before buying them, at the cashier you can pay with your irl credit card even.


Thatd be a wonderful day, im not sure an official apology letter from CCP could make up for that.
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#130 - 2016-10-09 01:17:11 UTC
Kyoko Sakoda wrote:
No gameplay = no reason.

Nana Skalski wrote:
With appropriate emotes and dance animations. And interactiive bed for two or more.

^^^ Gameplay

Plus. A casino with blackjack, poker, roulette and more
An in Station Market with reduced tax.

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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
Space Brutality
#131 - 2016-10-20 10:02:48 UTC
the players said no, so they stopped.
the players said they want more destruction so we have all of the destruction elements they advertised for

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#132 - 2016-10-20 10:19:14 UTC
There's a new Aura 2.0 that is supposedly going to revitalize the newbie experience.

Her avatar isn't animated, it's just a still thumbnail or such. Not even a sprite. So if you're looking for signs of improvement in the avatar area,

oh hey look hats! did you see the new hats

Dude, Agondray you need to get yourself a chin.

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Maneila Bekas
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#133 - 2016-10-26 13:30:34 UTC
At least give us a CASINO in the Station where we can pay 10isk for a Tequilla, get drunk (-90% to Tracking and Inertia) and gamble our Billions while rolling the Dice against other Players :D

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#134 - 2016-10-27 01:31:03 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
After 5 years and 3 executive producers in a row confirming that there are no plans to work on WiS it might, just maybe be time to accept that it's not going to happen.

And there are still a lot of people who want it.

If you don't give people what they want and give 'em something you want 'em to want instead, like some candies for active subscription and not-so-really-free-to-play, don't be surprised to see more and more of 'em leaving.


My reply to this line of argument remains the same as it was a year ago. Wait, it's two years now. Heh. Anyway:

If you really believe that there's such a huge untapped demand for WiS from people who will pay money for it, create a kickstarter. Let's see how much actual cold, hard cash people are willing to front up in order to pay CCP (or invest in a partnership with CCP) to make it happen.

I'll kick in £10 if you do, maybe more if you can agree some enticing stretch goals with CCP. I've always quite liked the WiS idea and if it was done properly it could have a lot of potential.


Eh eh I know of a guy who created such kickstarter. A spaceships game meant to also come with first person gameplay included. With stations, relicts, exploration planets...

Now, a couple years later, he raised $100M (December 2015) and still growing and that game has several playable portions.

So... yes. There's some vague, mild demand for such kind of space-sim game...

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Lathael
Liga der aussergewoehnlichen Tattergreise
#135 - 2016-10-29 06:26:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Lathael
I really don't know why CCP is not expanding WiS.
From an economic view it seems to be a good thing.
They can introduce goods in the store like throphies, skins for your rooms et cetera.
Clothes would be more appealing if you can show off in a bar or go on a dance floor.
And all that extra money is generated with goods that effects EVE Online gameplay not in a bad way in my eyes.

CCP states in the EVE Online experience video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQciMy_Pr0Q) that the game is about people, so why do not give them a proper home? ;)
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#136 - 2016-10-29 09:49:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Lathael wrote:
I really don't know why CCP is not expanding WiS.

They fired nearly all the guys who worked on this stuff ages ago. They would need to hire some people back to work on it. But they would rather invest in other (VR) games. We dont know if Nova is still in development because no news.

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MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#137 - 2016-10-29 16:56:12 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Lathael wrote:
I really don't know why CCP is not expanding WiS.

They fired nearly all the guys who worked on this stuff ages ago. They would need to hire some people back to work on it. But they would rather invest in other (VR) games. We dont know if Nova is still in development because no news.

We do know, because CCP LogicLoop frequently hops on the Dust 514 Veterans Discord to talk to us about it, and the former Council of Planetary Management members are still under their NDA and have been very positive about what CCP is showing them of development as a result.

Even CCP Rattati (effectively the Lead Game Designer) dropped in at one point to ensure us the project had cleared all current hurdles and was proceeding smoothly.

Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!

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InterStellar Architect
InterStellar Architects Corporation
#138 - 2016-10-30 00:42:55 UTC  |  Edited by: InterStellar Architect
I think WiS would be good and adds another dimension to the game.

For example, now gambling sites are no longer allowed, CCP can take over gambling / lotteries by having Gambling Rooms in walk in station. Also some other mini games.

I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but perhaps one day, they could also add a first person / third person shooter to the walk in station function. That would be cool. If Star Citizen ever comes out, and if it actually comes out as a complete game, then it will be some competition.

The Sandbox Sci Fi market is changing - if you look at all the Sandbox Sci Fi games that are coming out these days, they all have a first-person or third-person component.

I hope one day, the Cult Following community within Eve Online can explore the possibility of change. Instead of permanently resisting change, and be stuck in old ways.
Nosha Doshu
Doomheim
#139 - 2016-10-30 12:54:21 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Arkoth 24 wrote:

I pay subscription already. But you keep tellin' me to give more money for makin' EVE to be interesting for me. Nope. I already pay exactly for it and see no reason to pay any extra.


Your subscription fee entitles you to access to the server. That's all. It doesn't come packaged with a promise to cater to your every idiotic whim. Paying a finite amount of money for a specific good or service does not entitle you to anything more than was agreed.

If you go to a restaurant and order an a la carte item, you don't get other items for free based on the fact that you "already paid". You certainly don't get to insist that they build a rooftop deck and install a stripper pole, either.


Somehow this is impossible for some people to understand, yet we understand it easily and completely. Our subscription (whether cash or plex) gives us access to EVE, and that's all. Yet these people thinks it entitles them to more than that.

It doesn't.


The thing is, WiS has been a part of EVE since CCP started to tease us about Ambulation, which goes a LONG way back. Some of us bought their early vision of one universe where the spaceships were only a part of the whole EVE experience. The industry has proven that the IDEA of a game is more powerful than the game itself, and as such the PCU peaked around the time when they announced incarna, before the drama of the golden ammo and the leaks.

The only thing you're understanding is a narrowed version of what EVE once was, and even though the recent developments may prove you right, some of us still hope that sooner or later they're going to go back to their roots.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#140 - 2016-10-30 18:31:29 UTC
MidnightWyvern wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Lathael wrote:
I really don't know why CCP is not expanding WiS.

They fired nearly all the guys who worked on this stuff ages ago. They would need to hire some people back to work on it. But they would rather invest in other (VR) games. We dont know if Nova is still in development because no news.

We do know, because CCP LogicLoop frequently hops on the Dust 514 Veterans Discord to talk to us about it, and the former Council of Planetary Management members are still under their NDA and have been very positive about what CCP is showing them of development as a result.

Even CCP Rattati (effectively the Lead Game Designer) dropped in at one point to ensure us the project had cleared all current hurdles and was proceeding smoothly.

Good to hear that. I hope it will be an awesome game, at least partially catering to the WIS crowd.

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