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[November] Introducing the Porpoise

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C C P Alliance
#1 - 2016-10-04 13:55:37 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Fozzie
Hey folks! This will be the specific feedback thread for the new Porpoise-class Industrial Command Ship coming this November.
You can check out the dev blog here for the whole context.
Other feedback threads are available for the Orca, Rorqual, and the mining foreman gameplay as a whole.

The Porpoise is the new Industrial Command Ship being added in our November expansion. It is intended to fill the cheaper and more mobile slot in the mining foreman ship progression path. Despite its low cost, the Porpoise is more than capable of fulfilling all three mining foreman pillars.

PORPOISE
Industrial Command Ships bonuses (per skill level):
5% bonus to ship cargo capacity and ore hold
2% bonus to Mining Foreman Burst Strength and Duration
10% bonus to drone hitpoints, damage and mining yield
-10% reduction in drone ice harvesting cycle time
Role bonus:
50% bonus to drone mining yield
400% bonus to Remote Shield Booster optimal range
90% reduction in powergrid requirements for Mining Foreman Burst modules
90% reduction to effective distance traveled for jump fatigue
Can fit two Command Burst modules
100% bonus to Tractor Beam range
50% bonus to Tractor Beam velocity
300% bonus to Survey Scanner range

Slot layout: 4H, 4M, 2L
Fittings: 420 PWG, 350 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 6000 / 3000 / 8000
Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 0 / 20 / 40 / 50
Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 50 / 35 / 35 / 10
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 3500 / 875s / 4
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 100 / 1.5 / 4,500,000 / 9.36s
Warp Speed: 2.7 au/s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 125
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 50km / 90 / 5
Sensor strength: 20 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 300
Cargo Hold: 500m3
Ore Hold: 50,000m3
Fleet Hangar: 5000m3

Cost: ~50-60m isk
Max Mining Yield: ~980m3 per minute + drone travel time
Max DPS: ~400 dps

Let us know what you think!

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C C P Alliance
#2 - 2016-10-04 13:55:48 UTC
Reserved

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Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-10-04 17:41:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Geoffrey Boothroyd
Waitasec.

What about mission miners? Having a command ship IN a mission.... almost better to have another mining ship
#4 - 2016-10-04 17:42:17 UTC
Looks nice. Makes me think that I'll get one for my industry-alt even though her one-man company probably won't get much use out of it.

But you really nailed the aesthetics with this ship.
#5 - 2016-10-04 17:44:52 UTC
How about the industry information, is this an inventable T2 from the Noctis, or a T1 hull with its own BPO?

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#6 - 2016-10-04 17:45:23 UTC
Geoffrey Boothroyd wrote:
Waitasec.

There's a reduction to Ice Cycle time for teh drones?

So mining drones are going to be usable on Ice?

Also: What about mission miners? Having a command ship IN a mission.... almost better to have another mining ship



We get tons of new drones, my friend. You really should read the dev blog.
C C P Alliance
#7 - 2016-10-04 17:46:26 UTC
Ydnari wrote:
How about the industry information, is this an inventable T2 from the Noctis, or a T1 hull with its own BPO?

T1 hull with a BPO sold by ORE.

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Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-10-04 17:50:20 UTC
Does Orca have a better mining output than a barge? Will we see Orcas being used as a default high sec mining plafrorm?
#9 - 2016-10-04 17:50:34 UTC
i want to be first to lose one. but yes the stats are seem ok. but why not let it fit mining lasers?
Pandemic Legion
#10 - 2016-10-04 17:52:00 UTC
What will be the skills to fly this ship, how many days is it expected to take to train a character to get in and then fly it well?
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-10-04 17:52:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Haakaari
Will we get Drone Mining Amplifiers like the Drone Damage Amps?

Is Industrial Command I the only skill it needs?

What would it's mining output be compared to a basic barge?
Tactical-Retreat
#12 - 2016-10-04 17:54:29 UTC
I like this. I looks like a noctis, but its tank sure isn't the same!

It's more expensive and way more skill intensive than a Procurer, but I could see some people chosing this as a "half bling" option between a Procurer and a Skiff. Don't know if it's intended or not, but I don't see this being bad tbh.

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Last Calamity
#13 - 2016-10-04 18:29:05 UTC
I would love to see gas mining drones -- especially for this ship in wormhole space.

I think they'd see a lot more use here than on Orcas/Rorquals thanks to their low mass.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#14 - 2016-10-04 18:34:23 UTC
10% bonus to drone hitpoints, damage and mining yield
50Mb bandwidth, 125m3 drone bay.

:notbad:

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Caldari State
#15 - 2016-10-04 18:34:42 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Ydnari wrote:
How about the industry information, is this an inventable T2 from the Noctis, or a T1 hull with its own BPO?

T1 hull with a BPO sold by ORE.

Any hints on price of BPO?
#16 - 2016-10-04 18:35:39 UTC
Nice, but I think it needs to be able to fit a smarter version of smartbombs, instead of drone bonuses. The smarter smartbombs should only hit targets which are red to you, and thus usable in high sec.

The primary killers of mining ships are player ganks, which usually rely on close range, high alpha damage, no tank, cheap ships - and typically more than one of them, operating in a coordinated attack. The battle is usually over in less than 15 seconds, with little time to respond by the defending miner. Thus, the nature of a gank attack does not lend itself well to being defended against by drones. Smartbombs would be a better defense, if made more safely usable in high sec.
#17 - 2016-10-04 18:37:42 UTC
still that ugly hull ... in game since the primae, but still as ugly as always...

Tell the designers with spare time (as they did for intys and frigs...) to redesign it please! ^^

Anyway, the bonus look good, i'm waiting to see some on killboard :p

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#18 - 2016-10-04 18:43:02 UTC
But can it mine gas?
Sons of Tangra
#19 - 2016-10-04 18:56:27 UTC
Please change the hull design it looks ugly and are you ccp so poor so you cant make a good looking new design for that ship.

Amarr Empire
#20 - 2016-10-04 19:05:26 UTC
Admit it....it's a rebadged Noctis 😉

Stats look good though...

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