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All sounds good... there are some very nice thing in there...

But:
Don't you guys ever think about docking Supers ever again please,
Do not let them become a standard Carrier on steriods

Hmm... ok, I poorly combined two separate issues into a single proposed solution. Apologies. Let me separate them now.

1) Static, low-end (1/10 and 2/10) DED complexes in high sec should be restricted to newer players.

Currently, new players don't have a chance to get the shiny at the end of the complex, due to more experienced players using T2 ships to blitz and farm all of the complexes. I know this happens 'cause I've admittedly done it myself a few times.

Restricting these complexes to T1 ships would help reduce the farming, but putting an SP limit on these complexes would solve the problem completely.

2) More controversial subject - farming missions for ISK.

Farming a static game feature - in order to pay to play other aspects of the game - is simply bad game design and should not be supported. CCP might as well implement "click on agent - get ISK" as a feature instead.

Ideally, the scripted mission system should be replaced by a dynamic mission generation system, which introduces a degree of randomness and risk, scaled to the player's current skill level, to prevent mindless semi-AFK running of the same missions over and over again. Failing this, the next best solution is to make missions into a progression, similar to the mission arcs. Once you do a mission, you move on to the next one. After you reach the skill level at which a mission is no longer a challenge, then you should no longer be able to run those missions, simply for the sake of grinding ISK.

Is forcing and/or pushing players onwards and upwards a bad thing? No, I don't think so. People tend to drift into repetitious comfort zones, wihch is ok in RL, but not so good for games. Your older and loyal players tend to become a lot less loyal once their boredom threshold is finally reached, and they drift off to the next game.

Ah yes - the EAF changes. Not a fan of the anti-supercap niche you guys proposed. If you want people to use them, try making them usable and somewhat survivable.

-Liang

Agreed. Fixes to sub-cap ships which only apply to use in null sec are really poorly thought out.

Sounds like very weak reasoning to me.

(a) You can always train for new stuff and that SP will likely be useful again at some point. The whining about useless SP tends to come from people who have changed their focus in gameplay or FOTM chasers. Point being the issue of skill becoming totally useless isn't a real issue and the complaints are about something entirely different. Besides if some skill is truly useless, the solution is to have CCP take a look at the complaints and make it usefull for something.

(b) We play a game where training for commonly used ships takes weeks, months or even years and new players are expected to endure long periods to be even useful in many situations. But when it comes to arguing for respecs, someone having to wait minutes or hours to gain access to the new content is suddenly a big no-no. Absolute garbage.

(c) Those things don't justify a respec. The skill system allows for changes in specialization and achieving basic level of competancy only takes days. For a vet this is nothing and a new player couldn't have invested much in anything, so any damage is minor too. Specialization takes longer, but that should mean serious investment in time. Buying a character certainly doesn't warrant a respec, since you could have just buy a specialized character in the first place. It sounds like character traders just want to buy a SP pool and a respec to basicly have the ability to buy skillpoints and bypass the normal training limitations.

If there are good reasons to add respecs to the game, I'm not aware of any and you certainly didn't present one either. Considering it's unnecessary in the EVE skill system, reduces the value of specialization and caters mainly to FOTM chasers, even limited respecs should not be allowed for any reason.

And that's the whole problem.

Whether it's relatively new players whining because they trained some mining and now want that sp in pvp skills, or veteran players who should know better whining because their I-win supercarrier got nerfed the principle is the same. The game is about patience and choices and knowledge that the game continues to evolve hopefully for the better.

You don't get redos simply because your formerly overpowered ship got nerfed. You made use of those skills while the ship was op. You live with those maybe now unused skills now that the op ship was taken away. Poeple can't take away what happened in the game with those ships while they were op. Why should the skills vanish as well. It's just children crying because their candy was taken away and also wanting new candy.

This is a great game. P2W was going to be the death of it, and wisely CCP realized that. I don't care how many of you pouting butthurt supercarrier pilots whine in your meetings for a skill respec. Hopefully CCP will see it the same way. That there are aspects to this game that should not be changed, because those aspects are what make the game a game worth playing.

Respecs will only enable more fotm chasing and make the balancing all the more imperative. Balancing is hard work, and CCP moves at a glacial pace in doing it. They would have to move at warp speed if they allow respecs. Either way it would be the ruin of the game anyway.

I honestly can't believe there were CSM people whining for respec. Disgusting. Tell us who because they're not worthy of any votes in the next election.

edit- and respeccing purchased characters? Are you all ******* batshit crazy? Purchasing characters is already a compromise to game integrity. Now Johnny wnats to not only buy a new toy but redesign the new toy? Then we might as well just purchase the sp directly and we are back to p2w and the game is ******. Seriously pissed off over this. I haven't been a CSM hater but if this is the kind of diarrhea that slips out your butt cheeks and all over the game while we're not looking you just converted me.

Don't try to make faction war like sov 0.0 warfare.

Increase the variety of things to do in eve. Don't decrease it.

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PLEASE, DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT RESPECS! OR WE WILL LOOSE OUR RESPECT.

As the poster quoted stated - it will actually hurt new players, as vets could always respec to new stauff when its been introduced, while new players will always be behind. Where as i understand current system, when new stuff comes into play, both vets and new players are on equal tooting (more or less)

If such a system were to be implemented, there would likely be significant restrictions placed upon it, and would likely come at a steep price.
Plus, a vet respeccing into "new stauff" would be doing so at the expense of "old stauff"--he might not fly an interceptor as well, or be able to fly a capship, or any number of possibilities. Plus, in eve you can only be so good with a given ship and module set...newbies would be able to equal you with time.

Also: consider the bittervet who's tired of capital ships and wants to be able to fly those HACs he passed up years ago. A Respec would help player retention by enabling a fresher experience for them.

It would also remove the feeling of having to work for something.

-Liang