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Operation Moonshock [DECLASSIFIED]

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Templar Thal Vadam
Dark Sefrim Six
Khimi Harar
#41 - 2016-09-28 13:10:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Templar Thal Vadam
Seraphim Risen wrote:
At 20:14 today, two Providence-class vessels impacted the TES Purity at full speed. Each contained 2,891,000 units of Antimatter L ammunition. Using a transmitter, two consumer electronics, a self harmonizing power core, and a thermonuclear power unit, they were wired into large bombs. Attached to each were six slavers. And a postcard from Poitot.

As the ships made impact, a nearby Rote Kapelle Scorpion used an ECM Bust to trigger the explosives in the assassination attempt. The attempt, while angering CONCORD and aggressing over 60 nearby pilots, did not appear to damage Empress Catiz's titan.

Empress Catiz and the Empire represent the antithesis to Rote Kapelle's beliefs and ideals.


.....I am disappointed, Seraphim. This is painful to read from you. How many people did you kill in those ships? How many more could have died? And for what? The ideals of some damn null sec pilots. I had thought you someone who loved our late Empress. This attack is an attack on all she stood for....and it was wrong.

You have wounded those who called you friend Seraphim....
Arrendis
TK Corp
#42 - 2016-09-28 13:12:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Arrendis
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
You should probably recheck that statement, you appear to be missing an object for critical parts of the first clause.


Shall we trust our persuasion to one who can or will not parse the truth when so clearly it is laid before her?


Gotta tell you, Binky, I don't much care what you trust me with. However, in that it is your obvious preference to engage in overly complex constructions of verbiage, your foibles and fulminations I'll indulge as my point I make. As a notable departure from the meager efforts engaged in by yourself, however, mine will be grammatically correct.

To say that one like Ayallah was there
to scurry 'bout and serve the Empress' will
is simply put as wrongly overthought
as your florid sentence construction is.

Ayallah may speak many platitudes
of loyalty and paying Amarr's dues
but look ye down at her alliance, friend
and ask to whom the Legion's knee would bend

For lo! All know there's no love lost between
she, and me, you see, we... we don't agree
on many things including if the Queen
is heaven sent, err, Empress, there... you see?

But I'll be blunt in closing (cuz I'm bored)
as lecturer, sir, you cannot afford
so be obtuse, or wrong, or e'en unclear
on why PL and Goonswarm both were here.

(And yes, Mr. Amtiskaw, the rhyming scheme varies intentionally throughout each verse of iambic pentameter.)
William Danneskjold
#43 - 2016-09-28 13:19:48 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
You should probably recheck that statement, you appear to be missing an object for critical parts of the first clause.


Shall we trust our persuasion to one who can or will not parse the truth when so clearly it is laid before her?


Gotta tell you, Binky, I don't much care what you trust me with. However, in that it is your obvious preference to engage in overly complex constructions of verbiage, your foibles and fulminations I'll indulge as my point I make. As a notable departure from the meager efforts engaged in by yourself, however, mine will be grammatically correct.

To say that one like Ayallah was there
to scurry 'bout and serve the Empress' will
is simply put as wrongly overthought
as your florid sentence construction is.

Ayallah may speak many platitudes
of loyalty and paying Amarr's dues
but look ye down at her alliance, friend
and ask to whom the Legion's knee would bend

For lo! All know there's no love lost between
she, and me, you see, we... we don't agree
on many things including if the Queen
is heaven sent, err, Empress, there... you see?

But I'll be blunt in closing (cuz I'm bored)
as lecturer, sir, you cannot afford
so be obtuse, or wrong, or e'en unclear
on why PL and Goonswarm both were here.

(And yes, Mr. Amtiskaw, the rhyming scheme varies intentionally throughout each verse of iambic pentameter.)


Will you marry me?

War is murder. It always has been, always will be. Murder in the name of God. Freedom. Your country. Whatever it is, it is murder. I am already against the next set of wars.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#44 - 2016-09-28 13:25:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Arrendis
Sorry, I'm already in as committed a relationship as someone in my line of work can afford.

Also, Amtiskaw, if in fact the thought has crossed your mind that perhaps, some minor flaw may lurk there in your second offering of which you're unaware, bravo!

'can or will not' construction means 'if you can' OR 'if you will not'. You wanted 'cannot or will not'.
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2016-09-28 13:47:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Arrendis wrote:
Sorry, I'm already in as committed a relationship as someone in my line of work can afford.

Also, Amtiskaw, if in fact the thought has crossed your mind that perhaps, some minor flaw may lurk there in your second offering of which you're unaware, bravo!

'can or will not' construction means 'if you can' OR 'if you will not'. You wanted 'cannot or will not'.


Meter and cadence are more important persuasion devices than the fine points of grammar to trigger pedants.

That said, I yield nothing in the integrity of my constructions.
Quin Mansa
Doomheim
#46 - 2016-09-28 14:07:39 UTC
As the noose tightens, so does the condemned thrash against it. The tantrums of the profane are but their animal reflex to the realization of the promise granted by the Lord, and delivered through Her Imperial Majesty.

Those who struggle in vain against the Chosen: that rope around your neck is Truth, it is made of the Faithful, and it belongs to the Almighty. Submit to His Light and stand Reclaimed, or your doom shall be so sealed.

"Today, our future is in our hands, and His light shines down upon us." - Her Holiness Catiz I

Arrendis
TK Corp
#47 - 2016-09-28 14:13:43 UTC
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:
Meter and cadence are more important persuasion devices than the fine points of grammar to trigger pedants.

That said, I yield nothing in the integrity of my constructions.


Well, then you should'a striven for some lyrical flow.
and not some miracle blow
from some mysterical throw
no?

I don't mean to be mean
but son you awfully seem
to want to make a big scene
from what went on with the Queen

but ok

so now you want to attack, and gimme all sorts of flak
because I took you to school on understanding your tools,
made you look like a fool
or maybe some kinda hack, Jack.

Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2016-09-28 14:32:22 UTC
Alizebeth Amalath wrote:
My office, 2330, tomorrow night.


Just to clarify...is that an open offer? I can bring some very good gin if that helps?
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2016-09-28 14:52:10 UTC
As usual, any attempt at drawing attention to the substantial structural deficits in New Eden society is met by the alternating currents of coarse resentment from the vested and flowered obfuscation from the posh hangers-on.

This is why your reminders must be frequent and tangible, because so willfully and with alacrity you forget.

Regards.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#50 - 2016-09-28 15:02:57 UTC
Orrrr.... you could try actually drawing attention to those deficits and not immediately attempt to cast aspersions on the motivations and agency of those who are observing events of consequence. Believe it or don't, it's very easy to point out the inequities in society without specifically calling out a member of one of the groups in the Cluster least beholden to any of the Empires.

As for the timing of my responses, I've got some time without paperwork. It's a perk of being a life-long insomniac.
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2016-09-28 15:17:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Arrendis wrote:
Orrrr.... you could try actually drawing attention to those deficits and not immediately attempt to cast aspersions on the motivations and agency of those who are observing events of consequence. Believe it or don't, it's very easy to point out the inequities in society without specifically calling out a member of one of the groups in the Cluster least beholden to any of the Empires.

As for the timing of my responses, I've got some time without paperwork. It's a perk of being a life-long insomniac.


Did I call you out? I hadn't noticed. Consider yourself called out then, it's of little consequence for me beyond salt in the growing bank.

This was by way of answering your question: who are you?

Surely you asked that in good faith, as now you claim some kind of offense.

Goons and PL are worse than the empires, you take the life force and minds of otherwise free capsuleers, enticing them with exclusivity while delivering homogeneity, commodities of far more concern than the juices of mortal bodies.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#52 - 2016-09-28 16:17:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:
Did I call you out? I hadn't noticed. Consider yourself called out then, it's of little consequence for me beyond salt in the growing bank.

This was by way of answering your question: who are you?

Surely you asked that in good faith, as now you claim some kind of offense.

Goons and PL are worse than the empires, you take the life force and minds of otherwise free capsuleers, enticing them with exclusivity while delivering homogeneity, commodities of far more concern than the juices of mortal bodies.


I hate this style of rhetoric: verbosity as a weapon.

My predecessor used it. I've promised myself I never will.

It's a gladiator's approach to discussion: flashy, noisy, possibly pleasing to the crowd (for some crowds), definitely flattering to the combatant's ego. It's also ineffective for actually communicating with most people.

It main effect is to limit how many people you have to defend your ideas against, whether they're good ideas or not. It creates a filter; only people able to navigate a labyrinth of arcane verbiage and complex structure will be able to engage.

The goal of this style isn't actually to teach or discuss ideas; it's to "win."

... whether or not the idea makes any sense, whether or not the position you stake out is worth defending.
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2016-09-28 16:29:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Aria Jenneth wrote:

verbosity


I don't think this word means what you think it means.

If anything I can be accused of maximizing syntactic complexity.

I'll leave you to speculate on possible motivations.
William Danneskjold
#54 - 2016-09-28 16:40:42 UTC
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:
Words


Do you write anything with meaning?

War is murder. It always has been, always will be. Murder in the name of God. Freedom. Your country. Whatever it is, it is murder. I am already against the next set of wars.

Ben Booley
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#55 - 2016-09-28 16:46:00 UTC
William Danneskjold wrote:
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:
Words


Do you write anything with meaning?



Do you do anything with meaning?
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2016-09-28 16:48:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
William Danneskjold wrote:
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:
Words


Do you write anything with meaning?


The gates to your understanding are manned by stalwarts of your own creation, but only nominally of your control.

In this I do you many favors to make you aware, so that even in the absence of understanding you may perceive what is lacking by its form, and first glimpse into the vale of deeper knowledge.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#57 - 2016-09-28 16:48:25 UTC
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:

verbosity


I don't think this word means what you think it means.

If anything I can be accused of maximizing syntactic complexity.

I'll leave you to speculate on possible motivations.


Hm. You haven't actually posted any wall-of-text rants, yet, to go with your taste for florid language, so, point.

I'm not actually very interested in your motivations, Mr. Amtiskaw. So far it looks like you're planning on killing people and telling them it's their fault you have to resort to violence because they're too stupid and unenlightened to understand your ideals.

Boring as dust.
William Danneskjold
#58 - 2016-09-28 16:52:06 UTC  |  Edited by: William Danneskjold
Ben Booley wrote:
William Danneskjold wrote:
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:
Words


Do you write anything with meaning?



Do you do anything with meaning?


I try to avoid that. It sounds like actual work.

I do applaud you for standing up to the powers that be, though it resulted in an unfortunate loss of innocent life amongst the freighter crews.

War is murder. It always has been, always will be. Murder in the name of God. Freedom. Your country. Whatever it is, it is murder. I am already against the next set of wars.

Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2016-09-28 16:52:15 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:

Boring as dust.


The adolescent mentality is quite becoming on the herd so long as it wanes to passivity upon coming of age.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#60 - 2016-09-28 16:54:54 UTC
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:

Boring as dust.


The adolescent mentality is quite becoming on the herd so long as it wanes to passivity upon coming of age.


I'm sure you'll grow out of it, then.