EVE General Discussion

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TL;DR – Eve is an abusive lover. Stories of why I can’t quit Eve for too long. Can anyone help me with T1 fits for Gallente ships that would let me run some form of DED sites?

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Greetings! I have decided to take my first steps into what everyone says is the most important part of playing Eve: being social! While I'm not ready to go looking for a real corporation as of yet (as opposed to the one I made for myself), I figured I should at least take baby steps, baby steps, and dive into the realm of Eve General Discussion! To that end, I wish I actually had half as much confidence and smugness as my avatar would have you believe! Dang I love Eve's avatar creator!

Anyway, this IS more than a needless and superficial introductory post. I do have some thoughts to express and questions to ask that would help me understand the game and my place in it better.

First, I've played a lot of games in my life, especially RPGs. From actual pen and paper to the Baldur's Gate saga, to the Mass Effect universe, to various WoW style MMOs, etc etc etc . . . and while I think I have had unhealthy relationships with some of those games in the past, I have to tell you that I think Eve is downright abusive. I first joined about two years ago and have "quit" twice and here I find myself back in the saddle again. I just can't quit you, Eve! I can't quit you! Even when I was so fed up with whatever made me mad at the time and I let my subscription lapse, I still made sure my skill queue was full so I would get every bit of use out of the time I'd already paid for. Why? Because I knew I'd be back.

My in-game activities have been more on the carebear side of things, but I really think I engage in PVP quite frequently, just on the offering myself as bait side of things. I've sunk most of my skill points into exploration and I still remember the panic and wonder of warping into my very first nullsec bubble camp. I was so stunned that I didn't even try to do anything, I just took my hands off the keyboard and mouse and watched the fire burn . . . I learned that day just how true the maxim of not flying what you can't afford to lose was. But I also learned how big and diverse the world of Eve was and how exhilarating nullsec can be. Since then I've actually been able to avoid dying in a fire quite so quickly and I equally remember the awesome feeling of knowing that the only reason that guy didn't successfully gank me was because I had the right fit equipped that let me get over his tackle and warp away Scott Free with the loot I was carrying. It was a tremendous experience. Similarly, when I reactivated my account just a few days ago, I decided to take my astero out into high sec on a shake down run just to re-familiarize myself with things after about a year break. And what do I find first thing? One of those lesser covert operations bases with the four cans that blow up on a timer. Well good grief, I couldn't remember how to do anything but I jumped to it anyway! My palms were instantly clammy and every muscle in my body tensed as I fumbled to locate, approach, lock on and start running the hacks . . . one can done, some loot but can't afford to look at it, just get to the next can . . . fumbling with my commands, dang it, pull yourself together! Second can complete, grab the loot, oh crap red crosses just appeared on my overview! Wait, they're not red crosses! What are those?? Who cares, red anythingmeans gtfo when you're in one of these sites! And I do, just in the nick of time. And so 5 minutes after logging back in after a year away I'm 33 million isk richer. I know, I know, peanuts for most players, but pretty awesome for this seemingly perpetual newbie. It was like a welcome back present complete with the adrenaline rush!

And I guess the only reason I share all of that is to say that this game is SO abusive . . . but yeah, I love it. I honestly don't understand most of it. So much of it flies so fast over my head that the concussion hurts my ears, as one forum member's signature alludes to. And I guess that's where my first question comes into play.

As I mentioned above, I've sunk most of my skill points into data/relic site exploration activities with a significant chunk into planetary interaction as well. I have a simple lowsec PI operation that nets me about 80-100 million isk per week for absolutely minimal effort. And that right there is a huge buffer that means I could literally lose an astero every week and I'd be fine.

So while I have a nicely skilled character in a couple areas, and a hodge podge of other things from the general first-time newbie activities of long ago (dumb mining skills, I used that retriever ONCE, darn it!), I'm not well skilled in many other areas, including weapons systems. I can fly up to Gallente Battleships, but just barely. I think I have decent basic ship skills (the background skills that help with fitting) and can run some T2 modules, but none of them are guns. I'm on my way to T2 Sentry Drones, but that jump from level 4 to 5 is a long one. So here's the question: What is available for me that I can actually do? I'd love to try DED sites (still wrapping my brain around the different variants) and work my way into level 4 missions as more dependable income and to get comfortable with tactical combat, the display and all the commands so that I at least know where everything is before I try to go out and do actual PVP. (I did try to do that once a long time ago, by the way. Just threw some missiles on a . . . can't even remember what it was, but I had basically level 1 skills across the board . . . and flew into lowsec. You can imagine how that went.)

Hi. Allow me to introduce you to what may be a more appropriate location for your rather lengthy post:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=248

I know. What a pain, right? Doing things correctly - only saps do that, right?

I'd suggest a Gallente fit but everyone here knows the only Gallente ship worth fitting is a disposable destroyer that shall remain nameless, until one of our resident wizards names it, of course.

Glad to see you back after that...long....absence.

No wonder people would rather go to r/eve.

What's up handsome? The character creator did you good

I've been doing DED sites since the beginning, starting with some shield Algos and Vexors doing 3/10's. I'm not sure where your SP is at but I can link you some fits and maybe i can talk you into getting into either a Stratios or a Gila when you feel comfortable with the game again. I've soloed Serpentis 4/10's before with an Astero before.

It sounds like you're pretty familiar with this stuff but if you got any questions, feel free to mail me.

Oh and with an hour to play each night, I would probably focus less on probing and instead hope for an escalation. Welcome back to New Eden

OP looks like my mirror image, well glad to have people like you back into this game and not being the only one who thinks of Eve as that one love you can't never forget!

Only, OP is Gallente and I'm Caldari by birth and ship/skill preference, so bllaaagh go away you dirty smelly sleazy French lookalike asdgj - j/k, not really. Also plans to improve my skillset include flying and mastering a Rattlesnake, so a load of delicious Gallente drones and ship skills.

I myself resubbed only a week ago and managed to get blown up (by an Astero, nonetheless) in the first couple hours in a wormhole, but then raised a couple billions in the next days in COSMOS loot and old assets liquidation.

A couple suggestions from a fellow noob:
- Skill for the covops cloak and get to exploring nullsec, it's way more profitable than doing exploration in lowsec, let alone hisec, even factoring in the occasional loss.
- Expand your PI to all toons of a character, triple the profits for not a lot more effort, except for setting up.
- Look for a nullsec based corp and do the higher end sites anomalies in a fleet. DED sites and escalations are also more common, by the simple fact that they are not as farmed, even if they require higher skills than yours in weapons and tank.
- I hear T3 destroyers are fun and easy to skill into, even if I yet have to try them.

Feel free to contact me in-game on EU evenings if you'd like to fleet up and do lvl4 or DED 4/10, I might be around.

Don't feed the trolls please.

Ike don mean to hurt you baby... but you make Ike angry.