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Blitz vs. Harvest
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Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#1 - 2016-09-20 06:59:57 UTC
I am kinda back to the pve side of the game and for the fun and giggles I do run SOE lvl 4s in blitzing Mach (which is ok for standing gains). On the isk side is there any real calculation if it si not better to fully harvest missions vs. blitzing? So far I was able to blitz anything blitzable and clean the nonblitzables, but I am curious if there are any serious data after all those reprocessing nerfs. thanks for inputs.
Cartheron Crust
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#2 - 2016-09-20 09:55:26 UTC
Pretty sure blitzing will always be better if you have decent skills and ship. More so if you are running for a corp that has good turnover on profitable LP items. Someone may be along with a spreadsheet and actual data soon though.

[EDIT] - I'm sure there was a thread about blitzing in a Tengu or Mach a while ago also. Doing a search will probably pull up some data. That might have even been for lvl3's as it was better for blitzing than lvl4's (again depending on LP store and constellation geography).
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#3 - 2016-09-20 10:01:15 UTC
Cartheron Crust wrote:
Pretty sure blitzing will always be better if you have decent skills and ship. More so if you are running for a corp that has good turnover on profitable LP items. Someone may be along with a spreadsheet and actual data soon though.

[EDIT] - I'm sure there was a thread about blitzing in a Tengu or Mach a while ago also. Doing a search will probably pull up some data. That might have even been for lvl3's as it was better for blitzing than lvl4's (again depending on LP store and constellation geography).



blitzing lvl 3s? Is it worth? Well I am pretty fast in lvl4s with Mach. Old toon 120 mil sps so skills are generaly not a problem. Just not flying too pimp Mach (1200 dps only).
Cartheron Crust
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#4 - 2016-09-20 10:09:58 UTC
Found the thread. Thank god for eve-search.com. Smile
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#5 - 2016-09-20 10:25:21 UTC
Cartheron Crust wrote:
Found the thread. Thank god for eve-search.com. Smile


I saw that one, but it is from 2014
Aaron Raus
Whispering Pines Golf Club
#6 - 2016-09-20 13:12:19 UTC
Hidden Snake wrote:


blitzing lvl 3s? Is it worth? Well I am pretty fast in lvl4s with Mach. Old toon 120 mil sps so skills are generaly not a problem. Just not flying too pimp Mach (1200 dps only).


You do realise 1200 dps is on paper at point blank range?
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#7 - 2016-09-20 13:22:18 UTC
Aaron Raus wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:


blitzing lvl 3s? Is it worth? Well I am pretty fast in lvl4s with Mach. Old toon 120 mil sps so skills are generaly not a problem. Just not flying too pimp Mach (1200 dps only).


You do realise 1200 dps is on paper at point blank range?



ofc ... but Mach is pretty good in damage projection. I have some experience eve combat stuff, trust me ;)
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#8 - 2016-09-20 13:44:23 UTC
As a general rule blitziing will make the most ISK over time because of the LP to ISK conversion thing. However you need to research markets you intend to sell in and see what items generate the best ISK return.

Full clear and loot salvage everything while not as profitable overall can be the most consistent source of income from missions. The LP to ISK thing is more affected by market trends and by the whims of other players who buy the stuff you sell while ore and minerals prices and the demand for them seem to be more stable over time.

Mach is a great blitz ship, for the full clear and salvage side it is well to be nice not very good.
For the full clear and salvage the Vargur and Golem as well as the Rattlesnake are better ships.
Depending on the primary NPC you run against the Paladin can be an excellent choice as well.
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#9 - 2016-09-20 14:31:51 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
As a general rule blitziing will make the most ISK over time because of the LP to ISK conversion thing. However you need to research markets you intend to sell in and see what items generate the best ISK return.

Full clear and loot salvage everything while not as profitable overall can be the most consistent source of income from missions. The LP to ISK thing is more affected by market trends and by the whims of other players who buy the stuff you sell while ore and minerals prices and the demand for them seem to be more stable over time.

Mach is a great blitz ship, for the full clear and salvage side it is well to be nice not very good.
For the full clear and salvage the Vargur and Golem as well as the Rattlesnake are better ships.
Depending on the primary NPC you run against the Paladin can be an excellent choice as well.
well i see the point, I am looking for data. ;) but thnx anyway. BTW only the SOE lp to isk looks to me like proper competition to lowsec FW farming.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#10 - 2016-09-22 01:20:56 UTC
Hidden Snake wrote:
BTW only the SOE lp to isk looks to me like proper competition to lowsec FW farming.

SoE blitzing and Burners is the highest income in high-sec right now.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Nya Kittenheart
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-09-25 19:29:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Nya Kittenheart
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:
BTW only the SOE lp to isk looks to me like proper competition to lowsec FW farming.

SoE blitzing and Burners is the highest income in high-sec right now.

Not only in high sec :) And the income doesnt come from SOE LP value but more from the constellation layout and the agent distribution algorythm.
It' simply rare to get burner more than 2 Jumps out from Lanngisi.But if you would find a system with a decent system layout ,other LP store can be just as profitable if you know what you are selling.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#12 - 2016-10-08 13:37:18 UTC
Blitzing is definitely still the top earner in HS and SOE still gives consistent returns. If you put in the effort you might find other corps that give better returns but volumes will be lower. My guide is a bit old but I've recently re-run most/all the burners and I haven't noticed any big changes. Maybe slight reduction in isk/h. Haven't confirmed if there was a change to serp base though.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3