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90m skill points extracted and 70b isk rewarded

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#21 - 2016-09-19 02:39:28 UTC
Thermal Damage wrote:
I am the person OP is talking about (I told you could you name me, its fine)

Most people won't understand why I do this but I do, and I enjoy the content it brings. Feel free to contract me your extractors. I will make your wallet blink . You will be paid the same sp:isk ratio as the OP.

~TD

52 mil sp's (I think)
Contract me the extractors (send me a friendly mail too as I may not notice a random contract) and I will send you back 52mil sp's worth of injectors. Look forward to seeing my wallet blink afterwards Blink

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Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#22 - 2016-09-19 12:25:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirty Forum Alt
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Thermal Damage wrote:
The opinions of alts do not interest me. Your post is just noise in an otherwise OK thread.

The offer stands for main accounts.

So people can't even pull sp from alts - they have to drain their *main* account try? So this service is *only* for people who are quitting EVE then and don't need the money anyway?

PS - when you start demanding that people drain *all* of the sp from their *main* account....well... if this were hypothetically a scam you are getting dangerously close to character-trade scamming. So if CCP ever updates their EULA to reflect that skill injectors have now replaced the character bazaar you may find yourself in some hot water.

Just some friendly advice - not that you care, even though my alt is better than your alt.

WTF

Character trading is the one and only area that has always been off-limits for scamming.

Similarly there have been 1 or 2 times (that I know of) where people convinced someone to pod themselves over and over again without upgrading their med clone (back when people lost sp) where the people were in fact punished...

If one steals sp injectors without knowing/caring where they come from - then they are just a market item and fair game. If one specifically insists upon targetting main accounts and demands that they rip *all* of the sp out of the character's head....well....to me at least that looks close to those borderline/gray-area cases that CCP has acted on in the past.

Don't take my word for it though - EVE has a long and proud tradition of people skating right along the edge of the rules until they smash face-first into the permaban wall. I won't lose any sleep over it P

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)

Thermal Damage
Star Nation
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2016-09-19 16:12:40 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
not that you care



Correct

I was found guilty of Nitshe by the CoCaP

Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#24 - 2016-09-19 16:19:14 UTC
Thermal Damage wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
not that you care
Correct
And yet you keep replying to my comments and ignoring the main accounts trying to get in on your offer...

As if I'm secretly the *only* one you care about.

Blink

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#25 - 2016-09-20 02:25:13 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Thermal Damage wrote:
The opinions of alts do not interest me. Your post is just noise in an otherwise OK thread.

The offer stands for main accounts.

So people can't even pull sp from alts - they have to drain their *main* account try? So this service is *only* for people who are quitting EVE then and don't need the money anyway?

PS - when you start demanding that people drain *all* of the sp from their *main* account....well... if this were hypothetically a scam you are getting dangerously close to character-trade scamming. So if CCP ever updates their EULA to reflect that skill injectors have now replaced the character bazaar you may find yourself in some hot water.

Just some friendly advice - not that you care, even though my alt is better than your alt.

WTF

Character trading is the one and only area that has always been off-limits for scamming.

Similarly there have been 1 or 2 times (that I know of) where people convinced someone to pod themselves over and over again without upgrading their med clone (back when people lost sp) where the people were in fact punished...

If one steals sp injectors without knowing/caring where they come from - then they are just a market item and fair game. If one specifically insists upon targetting main accounts and demands that they rip *all* of the sp out of the character's head....well....to me at least that looks close to those borderline/gray-area cases that CCP has acted on in the past.

Don't take my word for it though - EVE has a long and proud tradition of people skating right along the edge of the rules until they smash face-first into the permaban wall. I won't lose any sleep over it P

Please go re read the character bazaar rules again before posting

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#26 - 2016-09-20 02:32:50 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Please go re read the character bazaar rules again before posting

Yep - still against the rules to scam in any way with them. Big shocker.

Now try reading my post again before you continue the conversation - and realize that I didn't say there was a current rule, I said *if they ever update the rules* for the modern state of EVE. And of course it wouldn't be posted in the character bazaar, it would be put into the eula/behaviour code documents.

As I say though - feel free to test the limits and find out the hard way. Though he'll have some trouble doing that since he is ignoring your request to participate, isn't he PPP

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#27 - 2016-09-20 06:13:39 UTC
Can't be assed quoting this.

So if CCP ever updates their EULA to reflect that skill injectors have now replaced the character bazaar

The character bazzar rule is specific to that forum. In no way is it even mildly relevant to this thread. My face palming is over you somehow drawing any kind of line between the 2. CCP won't update their eula to say no scams related to plex, injectors/extractors, other things from the store...

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#28 - 2016-09-20 06:37:38 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Can't be assed quoting this.

So if CCP ever updates their EULA to reflect that skill injectors have now replaced the character bazaar

The character bazzar rule is specific to that forum. In no way is it even mildly relevant to this thread. My face palming is over you somehow drawing any kind of line between the 2. CCP won't update their eula to say no scams related to plex, injectors/extractors, other things from the store...


I've learned it's best to set down the mic and slowly back away. Dirty forum alt has mostly time on his/her hands.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#29 - 2016-09-20 12:06:40 UTC
pushdogg wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Can't be assed quoting this.

So if CCP ever updates their EULA to reflect that skill injectors have now replaced the character bazaar

The character bazzar rule is specific to that forum. In no way is it even mildly relevant to this thread. My face palming is over you somehow drawing any kind of line between the 2. CCP won't update their eula to say no scams related to plex, injectors/extractors, other things from the store...


I've learned it's best to set down the mic and slowly back away. Dirty forum alt has mostly time on his/her hands.

You would be surprised - but I do multitask well P

TBH if I seem distracted/hasty in a conversation I'm probably extremely busy (and on the phone yelling at someone) at work and just multitasking on the computer to help keep myself from going insane >_>



As for Noragen - that is why I also specifically mentioned those who got in trouble for making people pod themselves repeatedly as part of elaborate scams in the past, and stated that it would *only* be a potential issue because in this case our hypothetical scammer is targeting *only* the person's *main* account - and demands 100% SP removal. So assuming he does not then pay them anything, they will have essentially a week old character again and absolutely no realistic shortcut to fix it unless they can drop $100k on plex (in which case they wouldn't need him). If you don't think such a person will file petitions until their fingers bleed, or eventually find a GM who will listen, then perhaps you don't have enough experience with EVE's behavioural code enforcement.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)

Thermal Damage
Star Nation
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2016-09-20 15:32:29 UTC
tl;dr-

If CCP make something currently legal, illegal, it will then be illegal.

I was found guilty of Nitshe by the CoCaP

Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#31 - 2016-09-20 15:39:13 UTC
Thermal Damage wrote:
tl;dr-

If CCP make something currently legal, illegal, it will then be illegal.

And if you ever learn to play the game maybe some day you'll be able to get as much killboard activity as my *forum alt*. Big bad rich noob P

Probably not though if you do manage to get yourself banned >_> Bear

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)

Crimson Draufgange
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#32 - 2016-09-21 04:32:12 UTC
If you send me the skill injectors you get after extracting your skillpoints, I'll double them.

My Velator is overpowered.

"I use my hairgel to tackle my targets because it has a long lasting firm hold." - Me.

spongebobbb
#33 - 2016-09-24 10:27:03 UTC
Can you even extract 90mill sp from a 91mill. Sp character, won't it stop at 5mill left?
ResKriv
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#34 - 2016-10-11 04:49:17 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Thermal Damage wrote:
The opinions of alts do not interest me. Your post is just noise in an otherwise OK thread.

The offer stands for main accounts.

So people can't even pull sp from alts - they have to drain their *main* account try? So this service is *only* for people who are quitting EVE then and don't need the money anyway?

PS - when you start demanding that people drain *all* of the sp from their *main* account....well... if this were hypothetically a scam you are getting dangerously close to character-trade scamming. So if CCP ever updates their EULA to reflect that skill injectors have now replaced the character bazaar you may find yourself in some hot water.

Just some friendly advice - not that you care, even though my alt is better than your alt.

WTF

Character trading is the one and only area that has always been off-limits for scamming.

Similarly there have been 1 or 2 times (that I know of) where people convinced someone to pod themselves over and over again without upgrading their med clone (back when people lost sp) where the people were in fact punished...

If one steals sp injectors without knowing/caring where they come from - then they are just a market item and fair game. If one specifically insists upon targetting main accounts and demands that they rip *all* of the sp out of the character's head....well....to me at least that looks close to those borderline/gray-area cases that CCP has acted on in the past.

Don't take my word for it though - EVE has a long and proud tradition of people skating right along the edge of the rules until they smash face-first into the permaban wall. I won't lose any sleep over it P






After a long 20 hour eve session I was one of those guys that fell for the med clone podding... lol
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