Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'd have to actually simulate it by downloading the API data and running it.

If a CCP member actually shows any interest in this idea, I'll do that work.

Right now I'm eyeballing it from dotlan. Jita sees over 50,000 jumps a day. The systems along the major trade routes see at least 10,000 jumps a day.

By comparison, most systems that are not trade routes see low hundreds up to maybe a thousand.

The differences are massive. I haven't done the math to figure out how many standard deviations the trade routes are from the background average of all of new eden, but I'm sure it's at least three sigma.

Now, let's say someone did try creating artificial traffic elsewhere off the path.

They manage, somehow to create as much jump traffic between two systems as jita has to Perimeter. Tens of thousands of jumps.

All they've managed to do is bring two more systems into the calculation for top traffic. Jita and Perimeter are still going to be many standard deviations above the rest, they'll just have created a few more systems that are also ridiculously above the norm.

:CLAP:

You have just described EXACTLY what I was aiming to achieve. Bravo.

Why do we even need to do this?

The chances of being ganked in a freighter stands at 0.2% per 1.5-2 million jumps.

I don't particularly care for reddit.
Maybe I'm just some prejudiced against them for their public statements on political matters. Maybe I don't like the system of rewarding group think.
Maybe I'm not-so-secretly jealous of the attention the devs (one or two higher ups in particular) give to reddit instead of their own forum.
I don't know.

Whatever the case, starting a proposal with a link to reddit and a phrase alluding to its popularity or your intent to "share it here too" seems to drastically lower my interest in the proposal.
But then, I'm just some random on the forums. Why should anyone care if I'm interested?

This isn't a problem, it's a feature.

The different 'terrain' of space is desired as it necessitates tradeoffs and decisions. It actually forces game play choices on players - do I take the shortest, but more risky route or do I play it safe and go the long way? Your idea attempts to homogenize this and make space for uniform for no particular reason you've articulated other than it would be "better". I don't see how it is better, it just removes player choice and dampens risk for the safest ships in the game even more. If anything, there needs to be more variety in how once chooses to haul to make the profession more interesting. Maybe player-build stargates?

Choke points are suppose to exist. Deal with that by either protecting yourself or avoiding them. -1

I would have hoped a floating sec would work in sort of the opposite way.
The more ganks, the more over stretched the police are, the lower the sec goes.
allowing it to reach 0.4

and neighboring systems could drop down to 0.5 , you know places near those of high crime are less safe

But that leads to the rediculous situation I described earlier where security gradually climbs in null and low but then jumps way up at the lowsec-highsec border and then declines again as you approach the population centers.

That's just weird.

This method has some appeal.

Yeah, per system.

But turning that into an average to determine how many standard deviations trade routes are above background requires working with ALL the data.

Right now I'm just doing it visually. I know that the traffic is some rediculous number of standard deviations above norm. I just don't know precisely how many.



Which is precisely my goal. The trade routes become safe, but everything right off the routes, the feeder systems, becomes rough neighborhood. A lot more systems become viable for gank piracy, but the traffic density at each is lower.