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Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 66
Oliver Delorean Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 66	#1 - 2016-09-18 06:58:20 UTC 9 Killboards need to go! Why? It seriously hurts the game! People don't look for interesting fights anymore... 95% of the pvp is based on the "green killboard" Hold the pod!! What type of sh++t is this? Seriously! Get rid of all that: Look at my green killboard mentality and the game will be a lot better once again.

Shae Tadaruwa

Science and Trade Institute

Caldari State

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#2 - 2016-09-18 07:06:47 UTC | Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa

Interpretation:

No one pvp's the way I want them to and won't let me win.

Take your whinge elsewhere, many people like killboards and like the epeen factor they provide. So unless you can post data that shows that killboards 'seriously hurts the game', then your opinion has no more validity than someone who claims killboards are great.

As for hold the pod: that's time for you to unplug implants. Only give them a 10K pod.

Edit: and lol complaining about others not taking risks. 2700 kills to 420 losses. That's a good sign of being conservative.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Bat Country Pandemic Horde 19,001
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Horde Likes received: 19,001	#3 - 2016-09-18 07:13:11 UTC 6 The cowards who avoid PvP now are the same cowards that avoided PvP before killmails existed.


Oliver Delorean Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 66	#4 - 2016-09-18 07:14:15 UTC Won't let me win? WTF are you talking about? I don't care about winning! I want to fight! Unplug the implants? What? Why? I loose em anyway... I'm not whining, I posted here so I can argue with your type! Keep coming! Explain me why else the keyboard is so important to you.

Shae Tadaruwa

Science and Trade Institute

Caldari State

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#5 - 2016-09-18 07:16:06 UTC

Oliver Delorean wrote:

Won't let me win? WTF are you talking about?
I don't care about winning! I want to fight!

Unplug the implants? What? Why? I loose em anyway...
I'm not whining, I posted here so I can argue with your type!
Keep coming!
Explain me why else the keyboard is so important to you.

Well you certainly seem to care about not losing.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 3,799
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation Likes received: 3,799	#6 - 2016-09-18 07:21:20 UTC 1 Record of accomplishments and failures? The history of New Eden? Every game has a highscore list. Also I think the game would be long dead without it (btw, people would have found a way to create those even without API as long as killmails exists). I'm my own NPC alt.

General Guardian

Perkone

Caldari State

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#7 - 2016-09-18 07:28:34 UTC | Edited by: General Guardian

A killboard is like a record of good memories. One players killboard can tell an entire story. Countless times my corp has had moments where we post some of our most idiotic losses or funniest kills in chat and told the story and had a good laugh.

It's not just about epeen, but it's a history of your eve career. Where you were and what you did since you began.

I definitely wouldn't play eve without the killboard.


Oliver Delorean Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 66	#8 - 2016-09-18 07:31:43 UTC Why do you need that record of accomplishment? You are not going to engage if there is little risk of getting that red line on your killboard. Iv done both... I held the pod and iv been the pod that is being held. It's exactly what's going on right now in new eden, pvp is one big killboard show-up.

Vincent Pelletier

Pelletier Imports and Exports

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#9 - 2016-09-18 07:34:21 UTC | Edited by: Vincent Pelletier

We had killboards long before the api so that right there is not a solution in and of itself, if there even needs to be a solution. I will agree that killboards might/will keep people from "just having a fight" then again so does ship cost and bragging rights amongst your corp/fiends so I don't really see how it would be magically solved by removing the KB.

Then... I look at your killboard and i see you use the Svipul a lot while you're preaching about "why do people love their green killboard so much", so there's that.

And how is being podded somehow a bad thing and caused by these magical killboards.

baltec1

Bat Country

Pandemic Horde

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#10 - 2016-09-18 07:35:59 UTC

Oliver Delorean wrote:

Why do you need that record of accomplishment?
You are not going to engage if there is little risk of getting that red line on your killboard.
Iv done both... I held the pod and iv been the pod that is being held.
It's exactly what's going on right now in new eden, pvp is one big killboard show-up.

I come from a time without any KB, people would pull off an impressive dunk but because there was no record of it all that happened was thread after thread of **** flinging as people denied fights even happened.


Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation Likes received: 3,799	#11 - 2016-09-18 07:38:30 UTC Oliver Delorean wrote: Why do you need that record of accomplishment? You are not going to engage if there is little risk of getting that red line on your killboard. This is an unrelated insinuation ... do you even read the answers? I'm my own NPC alt.

Vincent Pelletier

Pelletier Imports and Exports

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#12 - 2016-09-18 07:41:29 UTC

baltec1 wrote:

Oliver Delorean wrote:

KB existed in 2006.

baltec1

Bat Country

Pandemic Horde

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#13 - 2016-09-18 07:43:48 UTC | Edited by: baltec1

Vincent Pelletier wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

Oliver Delorean wrote:

KB existed in 2006.

This is not my first baltec.

Also, KB before API were rather easy to fake.

Vincent Pelletier

Pelletier Imports and Exports

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#14 - 2016-09-18 07:47:45 UTC

baltec1 wrote:

Vincent Pelletier wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

Oliver Delorean wrote:

KB existed in 2006.

This is not my first baltec.

Also, KB before API were rather easy to fake.

Yeah we didn't have kb in 2004 :)

Oliver Delorean

Pator Tech School

Minmatar Republic

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#15 - 2016-09-18 08:41:03 UTC | Edited by: Oliver Delorean

Vincent Pelletier wrote:

Being podded is not caused by killboard - u get it all wrong.
"Hold the pod" so everyone can whore on the killmail is.

Eve mentality is: f the fight! Let's get those killmails! This is also caused by the killboards.

baltec1

Bat Country

Pandemic Horde

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#16 - 2016-09-18 08:44:33 UTC

Oliver Delorean wrote:

Vincent Pelletier wrote:

9 times out of 10 someone pops the pod anyway.

The Conference Elite The Conference 4,239
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite The Conference Likes received: 4,239	#17 - 2016-09-18 09:20:14 UTC Keeping score is part of every game. Think about it. Evil RatKid

Mike Adoulin

Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club

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#18 - 2016-09-18 09:33:11 UTC

baltec1 wrote:

The cowards who avoid PvP now are the same cowards that avoided PvP before killmails existed.

^^

Pretty much this....wouldn't change anything.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Xert Trassien

Bunyip Munitions

Ghosts from the Abyss

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#19 - 2016-09-18 09:42:11 UTC

Having played ALOT of games over the years the 1 thing i notice is a killboard of some sort with pretty much every game. They may not be called killboards but they show stats of kills losses etc.
Hell even racing games have stats showing how many wins losses etc.
Maybe just maybe you need to learn how to play card games on your computer ??
Oh wait they have stats on win/loss ratio to :)

And yes my killboard sucks but is just a gank alt anyways...

Hedion University Amarr Empire 153
Trader20 Hedion University Amarr Empire Likes received: 153	#20 - 2016-09-18 09:45:31 UTC \| Edited by: Trader20 1 The only reason I undock is to killmail snipe.