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Skiff Ore Hold Capacity
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Major Xadi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2016-09-16 01:22:47 UTC
Actually, the easiest answer to this, especially if your mining semi-afk, is to only fit 1 ice harvester.

Won't matter what the hold capacity is then. Problem solved.

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#22 - 2016-09-16 02:11:40 UTC
Or bring an extra block of ice with you. Done, instant 14k buff/nerf/what ever.

Really, you guys are honestly reaching with these "issues" and complaints about the changes to barges and Exhumers. This is just nitpicking.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#23 - 2016-09-16 02:17:52 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:

Really, you guys are honestly reaching with these "issues" and complaints about the changes to barges and Exhumers. This is just nitpicking.


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Elite Harvester
Elite Harvesters
#24 - 2016-09-16 02:27:59 UTC
Rory Wolf wrote:
Last post - I promise.

And nothing of value was lost.

None of the mining barges or exhumers aside from the Procurer have even ore holds by the way. Blink

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#25 - 2016-09-16 02:31:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Sobaan Tali
Oh, it's beyond mere OCD at this point. I honestly don't know if half of the complaints are actually just trolls or just ridiculously over the top expectations. The other half seems to be an honest case of not putting the numbers together and checking them out in-game, thus creating a sort of wild speculation that there's some hidden nerf CCP never considered when they thought this stuff up.

The Hulk, for instance, recieved a nerf to CPU. But, it's actually likely a buff depending on your fit due to the absence of a third strip miner...and you get a free low slot. My old Skiff even just went from being only able to have 2 MLU II to being able to fit a third if I want it instead of a PDS II should I favor more yield for less cap and tank.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2016-09-16 02:41:28 UTC
What happens if you have both lasers active when you only have space for one cycle? Universe implodes?

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Penance Toralen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2016-09-16 02:51:45 UTC
considering it was not a issue for the uneven amount of the Retriever at 27500, Mack at 35k, covetor at 7k; why suddenly is a problem for skiffs?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2016-09-16 03:29:09 UTC
The OCD with the OP is strong indeed.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#29 - 2016-09-16 05:35:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Sobaan Tali
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
What happens if you have both lasers active when you only have space for one cycle? Universe implodes?


Nope, but it might create a black hole somewhere, thus another universe. Either that or the other laser just doesn't yield anything once it completes its cycle and your ship's ore bay sits at its maximum capacity like a good little ore bay.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2016-09-16 09:03:07 UTC
The same thing with covetor Lol 2 ICE harvesters and 7k m3 ore hold.

For some reason i don't think that it is intended. It looks more like somebody didn't read into numbers while planning and implementing recent mining barge changes. Like happened with recent Amarr event. Lol

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Vincent Pelletier
Pelletier Imports and Exports
#31 - 2016-09-16 09:54:41 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Sobaan Tali wrote:

Really, you guys are honestly reaching with these "issues" and complaints about the changes to barges and Exhumers. This is just nitpicking.


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Federigo Mondial
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#32 - 2016-09-16 10:28:58 UTC
uhmmm then don't mind semi-afk, or turn off 1 laser when you are at 13 to 14 ?
Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
#33 - 2016-09-16 11:17:55 UTC
He/She/It/They would also love that changeShocked, preferably to 16k, I guess.
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#34 - 2016-09-16 13:36:04 UTC
**** the whiners. Drop it to 7.5k m3 and give the Skiff a 2x speed bonus.

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Ava Kurvora
Doomheim
#35 - 2016-09-16 13:49:12 UTC
Wow.

I can understand getting irritated with people who complain about getting ganked, I even defended CODE. against the idea that in real life they're assholes, but this guy was just asking for a small change, even willing to accept a smaller cargo hold.

You people are some of the nastiest, most miserable pieces of **** on the internet.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#36 - 2016-09-16 13:51:45 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:
**** the whiners. Drop it to 7.5k m3 and give the Skiff a 2x speed bonus.

Says the orca alt who sees a way to double his mining yield?

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HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#37 - 2016-09-16 14:28:44 UTC
Ava Kurvora wrote:
Wow.

I can understand getting irritated with people who complain about getting ganked, I even defended CODE. against the idea that in real life they're assholes, but this guy was just asking for a small change, even willing to accept a smaller cargo hold.

You people are some of the nastiest, most miserable pieces of **** on the internet.


OP is getting laid into because he proposed a change with the reason being "i'm lazy". If OP wanted the change because of an actual improvement, there might be a chance for an actual discussion.

Also, OP wants the change for ice, completely ignoring ore mining. It's a very self serving, narrow minded change that hurts more people than it helps. Do you want those ideas floating over to CCP? Most of us want those ideas nipped in the bud.
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#38 - 2016-09-16 14:33:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Winter Archipelago
Ava Kurvora wrote:
Wow.

I can understand getting irritated with people who complain about getting ganked, I even defended CODE. against the idea that in real life they're assholes, but this guy was just asking for a small change, even willing to accept a smaller cargo hold.

You people are some of the nastiest, most miserable pieces of **** on the internet.

He's crying over spilled milk and over something that has been an issue for barges and exhumers since the inclusion of their Ore hold:


  • Procurer had 12k m3 for 1 laser.
  • Retriever had 27.5k m3 for 2 lasers.
  • Covetor had 7k m3 for 3 lasers.
  • Skiff had 15k m3 for 1 laser.
  • Mackinaw had 35k m3 for 2 lasers.
  • Hulk had 8.5k m3 for 3 lasers.


The Retriever, Covetor, Makinaw, and Hulk all had (and still have) uneven ice hauls. The only thing that has changed is that the Skiff now has an uneven ice haul. He's making a big deal about nothing and requesting a change that would affect people mining Ore, as well. He can warp out at 14 blocks or stick around for the 15'th. If the hold gets reduced to 14k m3, it changes nothing over warping out early, but reduces the Skiff's Ore yield over time for those who don't have haulers. If it gets increased to 16k m3, it's another buff to the ship and improving it's overall yield over time for people without haulers.

OP is asking for a change that affects far more than simply his extraordinarily limited view.

Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Winter Archipelago wrote:
**** the whiners. Drop it to 7.5k m3 and give the Skiff a 2x speed bonus.

Says the orca alt who sees a way to double his mining yield?

A good point. That didn't even cross my mind.

Make the hold something ridiculous (14.9k m3 or 15.1k m3, perhaps) and leave the speed as it is, just to make OP and people like him grumble more.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#39 - 2016-09-16 16:04:07 UTC
Ava Kurvora wrote:
You people are some of the nastiest, most miserable pieces of **** on the internet.


Oh, you'll get used to it...

...well, maybe.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2016-09-16 16:11:07 UTC
Rory Wolf wrote:
Nothing. Mining being such a spectacularly exciting activity I don't mind watching my three toons like a hawk waiting for that exact moment for the lasers to fill the 14K. I mean who ever mines semi afk???


We need a CODE representative in this thread please.

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