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Ayallah

Brutor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

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#41 - 2016-09-14 17:54:16 UTC

The Scope – Amarrian Coronation preparations continue and CSM Summit commences

Yet more attempts on the Imperial Guard. Including two attacks at Safizon. These "several failed attacks" demonstrate the incompetence of the Imperial Guard to you still Arrendis? Perhaps you will insist they were all located at several low population decks again?

These Heretics have no chance at stopping the Empress from taking her place on the throne.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

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Silen Serine Likes received: 24	#42 - 2016-09-14 18:26:02 UTC I worry less about the security of the coronation ceremonies than I do about Mlle Ambre's pronunciation of the new Empress' name. Perhaps I have learned incorrectly from the dialects of my Khanid contacts, and will simply unlearn their much more palatable patois.

Vollhov Jr

Viziam

Amarr Empire

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#43 - 2016-09-14 18:49:00 UTC

Ayallah wrote:

Everyone who is responsible for military intelligence, for the protection of the Imperial Family to send to the scaffold.
They were not able to protect the Empress Jamyl who risked whatever Empire flourished.
But I assure you.
Drifters are not interested Catiz.
And Purists will not strike in the open. It's too risky.

Purists team commanders and officers of the Imperial Navy. Those who once fought for the Empress Jamyl Sarum.
People are experienced and know what military action.
And most importantly, they know how to fight against overwhelming odds.

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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.

Arataka Research Consortium

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#44 - 2016-09-14 19:48:33 UTC

OFFICIAL PRESS STATEMENT - CLEARED FOR PUBLIC RELEASE

The Society emphatically joins the chorus of condemnation to denounce the traitors of the so-called "Purity of the Throne" heresy. If it is true that hard times make great people then in the crucible of the past year the Empire has forged some who will surely be counted among the greatest of the Faithful. Now, standing upon the threshold of the Coronation, we confront one final obstacle before Her Imperial Majesty will formally sit upon the Sacred Throne. However, She will do so pure, regardless of the inane ramblings of madmen, and in unblemished splendor, despite their ill-guided attempts to mar this glorious event.

The Theology Council, the Imperial Government, the very Will of God stands behind Our Most Holy Empress and the Faithful will render unto those that oppose Her the only fate for which they are destined: to become ash.

Long live Her Imperial Majesty Empress Catiz I!

AMARR VICTOR

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13


Vollhov Jr Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 158	#45 - 2016-09-14 19:57:22 UTC Oh, I'm not even surprised. Declared a "heretic" those who do not pleasing Catiz. Money rules the Empire. Eve Online Gallery/Final Journey/My older brother

Valerie Valate

Church of The Crimson Saviour

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#46 - 2016-09-14 19:58:38 UTC

Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:

Well, excuse me, but I was quite sure that the thread for denouncing the Purists was here.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.


Ayallah Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1,056	#47 - 2016-09-14 20:57:23 UTC 2 Valerie Valate wrote: Well, excuse me, but I was quite sure that the thread for denouncing the Purists was here. One heresy does not cancel out another Blooder. Goddess of the IGS As strength goes.

Arrendis

TK Corp

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#48 - 2016-09-15 12:41:16 UTC

Ayallah wrote:

Well, first off, you're parsing badly. What the ticker said there was a second failed attack happened, and it was at Safizon, not that there were two attacks at Safizon. Absent any other specific information about specific attacks, we're forced to conclude that the later use of 'several failed attacks' in the newsreader's script is, given the context, clearly just an attempt at casting these gatherings in space as 'attackes'. Second, right now, we have no details on those 'failed attacks'. Were they like the first one, where the terrorists were able to carry out the attack, but simply failed to kill anyone? Or were they actually prevented?

The big problem with trying to make a case based on a few seconds of crawl and a few words in a video is that we simply have no actual data. Setting up a narrative's just so terribly easy when you don't actually have to give anyone enough information to really analyze events. Really. We learned more about a shipment of live cats.

But it's encouraging to see that you're reading so much into literally eight words of infortmation. Like I said: you're really bad at this.

Ayallah

Brutor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

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#49 - 2016-09-15 15:24:17 UTC

Your first assertion was that "making the Imperial Guard look bad" was the objective, disproven by a campaign of several attacks against them. They have successfully defended their garrisons. You said that it must have been a few "low population or open layout decks" when the article that spawned the discussion listed that several decks had been evacuated and three had been flooded. It also said the Imperial Guard garrison there was more than two hundred thousand. Your initial insistences were all disproven by the article you failed to read.

Now you do it again, claiming the words "several failed attacks" was a misnomer by one of the most famous and veteran reporters in New Eden. She even adds emphasis to the word several and reinforces my theory that these attacks are to weaken the Imperial Guard prior to the coronation. You claim this to add credibility to the statement that the ticker was misleading and could be interpreted as a "second attack on the Imperial Guard." The actual ticker says

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Imperial Armed Forces Raise Threat Level to Severe After Second Failed Attack on Imperial Guard Assets Stationed in Safizon

Very specifically mentioning this is the second attack at safizon.

You have to omit information from the news releases, insist it is inaccurate and misleading to support your point. All I have to do is point out where you skimmed over the information and directly quote the scope to prove you wrong. You cannot even count the number of words in a ticker and press release statement to make an irrelevant point. In fact Arrendis, it was 19 words in the ticker and 57 seconds of a two minute video. Instead of insisting over and over how bad I am at "this" (whatever you think this is,) just feel free to read the press release and watch the video a few times. Try to focus on it.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Arrendis

TK Corp

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#50 - 2016-09-15 19:39:10 UTC | Edited by: Arrendis

Ayallah wrote:

Your first assertion was that "making the Imperial Guard look bad" was the objective [. . .] You said that it must have been a few "low population or open layout decks" when the article that spawned the discussion listed that several decks had been evacuated and three had been flooded. It also said the Imperial Guard garrison there was more than two hundred thousand. Your initial insistences were all disproven by the article you failed to read.

As I've said many times, including to you: we are complex critters. I've only ever asserted that making the Imperial Guard look bad could have been an objective. Without data, there's no way to have ruled out other objectives. Nice try, but no.

There are two hundred thousand Guard on the entire station. If you're going to accuse me of failing to read, you might want to give it a try yourself. That doesn't give any information about the population of those decks. I opined that they were almost certainly low-population because otherwise, the sheer act of moving vast numbers of people quickly would almost certainly have resulted in at least one mishap-related fatality - likely from trampling, as I said.

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Now you do it again, claiming the words "several failed attacks" was a misnomer by one of the most famous and veteran reporters in New Eden.

Have you ever heard of the term 'argument from authority'? It's a logical fallacy - just because someone's often correct within reasonable tolerances doesn't mean they're always completely accurate.

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The actual ticker says

Quote:

Imperial Armed Forces Raise Threat Level to Severe After Second Failed Attack on Imperial Guard Assets Stationed in Safizon

Very specifically mentioning this is the second attack at safizon.

Yes, you can quote the ticker. Very good. This was a second attack on the IG. This one was at Safizon. If there's been a previous attack at Safizon, why haven't we heard about it? I mean, you'd think the first terrorist act against the IG in the system where the last Empress died might get some news coverage, wouldn't you?

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You have to omit information from the news releases, insist it is inaccurate and misleading to support your point. All I have to do is point out where you skimmed over the information and directly quote the scope to prove you wrong. You cannot even count the number of words in a ticker and press release statement to make an irrelevant point. In fact Arrendis, it was 19 words in the ticker and 57 seconds of a two minute video. Instead of insisting over and over how bad I am at "this" (whatever you think this is,) just feel free to read the press release and watch the video a few times. Try to focus on it.

Ayallah, dear, the eight words you're reading into are 'second failed attack' 'at Safizon' and 'several failed attacks'. None of the other words in either the ticker, or the report, are things you're reading into. Again, reading comprehension - you preach it, you might wanna try practicing it.


Ayallah Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1,056	#51 - 2016-09-15 20:06:04 UTC \| Edited by: Ayallah When you can no longer see the sky is it easier to just keep digging than turn back? Goddess of the IGS As strength goes.

Jason Galente

University of Caille

Gallente Federation

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#52 - 2016-09-15 20:19:29 UTC

Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:

Vollhov Jr wrote:

Arrendis wrote:

Vollhov Jr wrote:

Again.
Where straight text Jamyl Sarum? The participation of all the heirs.
The Empress did not admit the heir "Khanid" to the sacred council.

She restored King Khanid to the Privy Council, and declared House Khanid once more in unity with the throne.

Again.
I'm asking you.
She did it during his lifetime ?

Yes.

"Amarr - In a stunning move, Empress Jamyl I has announced that the Khanid Kingdom has been granted a full seat on the Privy Council."

https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/khanid-kingdom-granted-privy-council-seat/

Notice how he didn't respond. In the face of factual evidence to the contrary of one's closely held beliefs, many are likely to double-down in an effort to reduce the discomfort of cognitive dissonance and maintain internal consistency.

TL;DR He will double down and give in to stupidity to maintain his comfort levels. Or he will entirely ignore your point because it's not a matter of speculation anymore, which is where fringe theorists and terrorists thrive.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost


Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour Likes received: 2,408	#53 - 2016-09-15 20:32:24 UTC Jason Galente wrote: TL;DR Oh, so now you do a TL:DR ? Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

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