Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Does anyone know when CCP plans to add more modules for the Service Slots in Citadels. In Blogs all I find is the general one that industrial citadels will be a thing some day. The existing Citadels have many slots, but only 3 modules. Cloning, marketing and reprocessing.

As Citadels are expensive (well the L and XL are) I would like to see more stuff I can do with a Fortizar before putting one up. I am all for having industrial citadels that have a bonus but we should modules for our exsisting citadels also.

I assume they are working on this, but I can't find any info anywhere that is specific. I had thought this fall, but all I see announced is F2P this fall.

Also if Citadels are to replace pos's, I assume there will be a small one coming out? Any timeline on that?

What an odd assumption.

New structures are providing functionality that is currently available via POS. Nobody ever said they would be available in precisely the same form factors.

I didn't find anything specific on the updates page. Big thing is the free to play coming up and then old blogs about citadels. It's September already!

I am not worried about cost. I have used citadels and I like them. I can't see spending 700 mil for a medium citedal for a warp to mining pos is all. And I can't run harvesters on citadels. What I am saying is, citadels are cool lets get rid of pos's asap. but to do that they need to finish the implementation of citadels. If they are short term, there should be a schedule and I can't find one. Only pie in the sky promises.

So there will be nothing to replace small and medium pos's? Unless you can afford a 700 mil citadel you are screwed? That is not new player friendly.

Yes I read. Citadels are very expensive. A large is 12-14 bil and fitting it is many bils more. So be nice if it was a bit more multipurpose. . Basically no one knows exactly until it comes out or is on the test server. I live in null. Using someone elses stuff isn't an option. I will just have to wait and see I guess. Well I need to get on the test server also.

Not new player friendly? That's a joke. When were new players supposed to be able to erect their own structures?

Citadels aren't meant for solo or small groups. But i believe you'll be able to put Drilling Platforms and Industrial Arrays on the same grid.

Except for that whole bit in the dev blog where CCP specifically described the M Citadel as being for solo or small groups.
Ok, so they haven't implemented that well but their poor implementation has actually left a significant hole.

I think the OP is more trying to get... Is any more mod.s coming out for Cit.s besides what has been given... and in what time frame...esp. in the science department... b/c currently if you want to do anything with the science part you have to keep a POS up to do anything. Which is costing more ISK per month in fuel to run and keep going than a cit. mod. would if it was out. :)
Which really is the only real purpose for having POS's anymore atm unless you for whatever reason cant defend a FORT to put your CAP.s in.

If i was to guess in the Nov. new Cit. expansion you will see a few more mod.s come out with the new indy cits :)

And for people who think the new 700m. Meds are not new player friendly... well you clearly have never had to run a POS and fuel it for any lengthy period of time. One Large POS will run you about 500m. a month in just fuel costs... so compair that to the one time cost of 700m. and no fuel req.s??? yeahhhhh....

But i am looking forward to more mod.s than what is currently being given atm, and im sure there otw with the new Indy Cit.s im just going to be a little upset that when they do come out they will have some kinda bonus to refining which will im sure make alot of people upset b/c they already put the refining rigs on the current ones :) YEAH TEARS!!!

It's not just the price. Price just involves a little more grinding.

It's also the massive drop in firepower vs subcaps compared to a L POS with guns. It's anti cap firepower is about the same (When comparing M Citadel to L POS), and the XL Citadels are very impressive vs Capitals, but against subcapitals with the high sec limitations M Citadels are basically defenceless. Which makes it all about who has the bigger fleet in highsec, your Citadel is not a suitable anchor to allow your fleet to hit significantly above it's weight, where as a L POS was a suitable anchor.

That's why it's failed in it's design goals to be suitable for solo players or small groups.

However that's a by the by at this point, CCP didn't explore options which would have allowed them to work decently as a force multiplier vs subcaps while staying away from instant blap levels, and stayed inside their box, and as a result that box is what we have to play with.
And irrelevant to the Ops topic really.

P.S. @blank. Citadels do have fuel requirements as soon as you use any services, so it's not actually that much difference once you actually try and replicate your POS abilities rather than just use it as a hanger. It's just less tedious micromanagement.