EVE General Discussion

If a game is well managed, full of good contents, balanced on pve and pvp and provided with a decent tutorial to make players interested in it I'm sure results come.

It's a product, give clients good quality and they will stick...and the older is the product the more you need to focus on quality.

My impression is that Devs think that selling embarassing stuff like skins, together with plexes and pushing players to exlode much much ships ( closing eyes on mechanics like wardecs and hisec ganking ) will make ccp financial better ( or at least back to a good level ).

They are wrong imo.

Give them new missions, new exploration sites, new FW plexes or places, new ships, good tutorials for the newbies and so on....this will increase quality and will make players to come back playing the game and paying for subscriptions...

EVE had imperfections all the time I had been playing, its like someone (Sobiestor obviously, like me ) would take a truckfull of scrap from CONCORD MTAC factory and pieced together parts to form a rough figure of a machine, a glorious MTAC, but with a minmatar twist, and still few parts missing. And it was pretty under this roughtness. You know what I mean, proportions of its metal skeleton were right, It wasnt skeved, it moved, it was operational.
There was no major flaws like no sensors or no limbs for it to hold the enormous gun. Imperfections in design were stripped out roughly more and more, some parts were added (with every new frigate and small improvement to UI). Some parts were painted over so heavily, the paint covered access ports, as with new scanner window (so its too stronk with glittery, that is overdone and misses the balance with utility it had to have).

Everyone could all this time take a peak thru the window and buy a ticket to watch how they make this mechanism, you could point at the bumps in carapace and armor and ask, why they are there still after so much time. Some of them were angry about it being not finished for such a long time, some of them admired idea behind it. Some of them quarelled about what this thing represents, how it could be further shaped, to add more servos and limbs to a chassis or to add more fuel cells, or up its capacity for ammunition.

You could see how they pieced up the service station to accompany it (Browser, API tools), how they painted and repainted parts (nebulas ,space), how they made different exchangable armor plates (clothing avatars), how they experiment with more colours (skins). All of this to make it prettier and more refined, and they made you pay (ridiculous money) for sitting in pilot's place and pilot it for some time, to test it. You could have bought small memorabilia you could take with you. (EVE SHOP!)

A lot of work was made until this point. Dont try to diminish it. I have seen how it looked earlier.

With time, while the MTAC becomed more and more advanced in design, the work lessened (less dev blogs, overall feel of slow development) because of major parts being considered (roughtly) finished and some parts were abandoned because their design was too much for them poor Sobiestors to handle (WIS, landing on planets, avatar exploration)


So now doors to this workshop are about to be opened wider because creators have seen less people being around to pay for watching how the creators work less on it, the new and old can walk right in and watch MTAC, but from less angles, some of those angles will concentrate line of sight on the face (NPE), they could ridicule its still not finished appearance, its pretty Armor plate still having some chisel marks on the forehead. Some of those bumps may be left there for people to think there is a lot of work to do ahead.

Creators are working around next MTAC's, while people climb for free to the pilot cabin of this one we know the best. But these new will make it harder for them to work on this one we are invested into, as we know it, and like how it feels in general.

But there comes this Amarr trade investor, and he doesnt have idea about how to construct an MTAC, like an overconfident young cleric claiming that he knows everything about golden statues and he doesnt like how the creators perform, so he may say to creators "change it so its made of gold, people will pay more for piloting it". But it may be too late for that luckily, and creators may be still furious some Amarr man will tell them how to do things.

So they may always paint it gold and sell people the idea it is gold inside, but it is rusty, while sturdy and functional. I hope so.

Honestly as a 10 month old player there's years of content for you to still explore that's not new.

Some examples of what I think it's a healthy game developers work:

- Pve players? They deserve new missions every year, new stories to immerse themselves.

Now they grind several years old missions and please don't tell me that garbage of serpentis event was something like that, it sounded me like a mindless grindfest only.

- Pvp players deserve new and fresh plexes, maybe something more complex than the basic plexes with a timer. You can apply some creativity and maybe invent some more dinamic plexes for example or add some time limited rewards or special lp rewards, not letting everything the same for years.

- Non combat exploration (the combat one I don't know it ) is good, I like it very much but I can tell you that there are few faction relic and data sites and they become very repetitive soon, they can add some special sites, some special and harder hacks, some special loots ( Zeugma was a good example but ruined by insane material required, but they promised they will make it more decent at least ). Maybe they can make some special sites spawn in different areas to encourage players to adventure there, just for example.

- Dailies? They make a obscene try on them, short and useless, developed in a awful way....they can implement something much better, different kind of dailies for different factions, make some rewards that can change, one week isks, one week a special loot or a skin, one week SP for example.

- Mining? Do you think it's something decent? I don't think so, it's low reward/long time requirement, they began to do something good with Gas, making you go and try in dangerous places for good isks, why they didn't make a revolution, sweep off all that stupid belts, reduce material cost of 95% and reduce belts by 95%? Maybe adding spawning dangerous npcs like the gas sites? No, they leave situation like that with 90% of players mining afk and a bunch of ganker gaining a insane amount of money killing them.


This is only some ideas I just add, what I see is no creativity at all, only skins, plexes, alpha to try having new players, expensive bases with the idea of having them explode so players will buy plexes to replace the loss, ships redisigning that should be marginal and so on...

So...Eve is dying again?

Alrighty then.

Does still anybody think, that CCP play theyr own game?

Nah, I think its all in your head. I've seen plenty of players who are in player Corps and Alliances also rant against CCP as well.

Maybe even more so depending on the last blog.

The bad persons are those who believe they have a right to voice their opinions ...
... while at the same time not standing up for them. (is this how it's said it english?)

Bigmouthing cowards who rely on others to guide and protect them are a horror for society.

If you have something to say and don't need to hide ...
... then you have nothing to fear.

The worst scum are all those who have nothing in them and can only act the way they do because others protect them.

You know the kid who always behaves like a big boy ...
... but cries for his brothers when he has to face consequences?

That's those guys.

I'm glad they finally opened up F2P for EVE. I was worried the company was going to resist this obviously winning business model longer than would have been healthy for the company. And they are doing it in a way that makes subbing a tangible benefit as well, instead of resting solely on micro transactions. This is a smart move, a well considered one.

The only people I can think would have a problem with this are oven-mits-chess faux elitists or people that don't realize what capitalism is. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge fan of capitalism. In fact I'm not a fan at all. But this is the jungle we live in. CCP lives in it too. I'm not going to hypocritically condemn them for living in the jungle on its terms, I do it too.

Really the only argument you can say against this move is that it isn't a good business decision. The industry has demonstrably proven that it is, on paper and in practice. I've seen games going to **** rescued and improved by such decisions. I've seen games kept afloat by them. I've seen very few screw it up and actually tank. I know CCP has made mistakes in the past. But lately they've done well. I think they'll continue to do well.

If this game is so terrible, why are you playing it?